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  • Food Fight!

    Okay, moms. I need advise. The dinner table has become a war zone.

    BabyK generally has a big appetite. He started eating table foods about a month ago. Prior to that, he was scarfing down 2-3 jars of Stage 3 babyfood or the equivalent amount of homemade babyfood every night. Now, he only wants to eat what he can feed to himself by hand (no utensils) but he is not coordinated enough to feed himself an entire meal. Also, with only 2 teeth, he doesn't manage to chew and swallow much. Most of the food ends up in his lap, in his hair, or fed to the dog (who is actually becoming sick from eating so much of the baby's supper) and the baby is fussy and hungry after meals. I can get him started on some pureed food but after a few bites he starts demanding table food. Also, he only wants to eat starches -- potatoes, cereal, crackers, and bread. I've managed to slip in a cucumber slice now and then but he won't eat cooked veggies or fruit or meat. And, well, I know he won't starve but baby cannot live on bread alone.

    His caregivers say that he's battling with them during the day too. He screams and cries if we try to feed him babyfood and makes a huge mess shoving the spoon away. Screams and cries if he is offered only fruits and veggies and not starches as table food. Growels at us if we take starches away. Then he wants to nurse all night and refuses to be seperated from me. We give him a multi-vitamin supplement but he's starting to fight me on that too. (Can't blame him. It tastes and smells horrible.)

    Last night, DrK was on call and dinner became an all-night battle. I tried three times to feed him (babyfood, grapes, and apple slices) and he fought me every time I put him in the high chair. Finally, DrK came home, offered him some cheerios, and all was good.

    Is this just a phase? Do I roll with it and let him live on cheerios for a couple weeks? Do I just let him go hungry a few nights and figure that he'll eat what's offered if he's hungry enough? I don't want to raise a fussy eater and I don't want to make myself into a short-order cook offering multiple meals every night but there is nothing worse than the cries of a hungry baby.
    Last edited by MrsK; 10-06-2010, 01:09 PM.
    Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

  • #2
    Another thought. . . have any of you tried adding the babyfood purees into pancakes or spreading it on bread? He likes pancakes so I'm thinking I could try to make them nutritious. Or would I just be encouraging him to stick with the starches and textures he likes?
    Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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    • #3
      Oh man am I jealous. My dd hardly eats.
      I'd just feed him outside or in the bathtub.
      married to an anesthesia attending

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      • #4
        I would cut out all snacks, only give food in the high chair, and not worry about vitamins or vegetables or anything. Sounds normal what your baby is doing- my kids lived on crackers for 2 yrs or so. But I can't stand the snacking all day routine do I gave it only at meals and the afternoon snack. I do let toddlers wander around the house with a sippy until they spill milk out. Then it goes away too.

        The cries of hunger may be cries of defiance too. Nursing all night long is ok if u ate ok with it. I never could stand that routine past 4 months or so.
        Peggy

        Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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        • #5
          That is "are" not ate. iPhone typos...

          Anyway, good luck. Feeding issues are hard all around.
          Peggy

          Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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          • #6
            Yeah, I don't do snacks . . . although at his 6-mo check up, the ped recommended snacks! He thought it would help curb his hunger so he's not scarfing as much food at meals. But, I'm a tough mom and I'm trying to civilize this kid. Eat at the table. Sleep in your crib. Always wear pants. Don't scream in the grocery store. Yeah, I'm a mean momma.

            I'm guessing that this is a common problem. I googled "feeding 9 month old" and got a zillion hits. A lot of moms asking advise about the same thing. I'm going to try dumping the babyfood/puree into pancakes tonight. Bet he'll love it. I would just feel better about him eating breads if it had some nutritional value.
            Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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            • #7
              I'm a pick my battles gal. This sounds like round 1 of "I want to be a big boy". Personally, it isn't a battle I would or have fought. You have officially entered the "my baby will only eat cheerios and chicken nuggets" phase. Don't worry. They graduate to beer and corn dogs at about 30. LOL.

              No really. I would give babyk this little piece of independence and let go of your fear of malnutrition for now. I'm clearly not advocating this diet for the long term. My experience is that their tastes refine and they will enter into the chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, pancakes, bananas, strawberries phase etc soon.

              Babyk is growing up.

              Kris
              ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
              ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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              • #8
                Snacking is totally ok in my book at that age. I always worked in snack time for the toddlers and actually, schools work in snack time for k-4. Teeny tummies = hungry little ones!

                I would vote with your pedi on this one. Maybe he gets so hungry before meals that it makes him a little frantic? None of my kids are close to being overweight btw.

                Aidan is so small that my pedi even suggested high fat snacks available all day (grazing). He is still teeny. The snacks went straight to my hips though. LOL
                ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
                ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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                • #9
                  We've had kids that subsist on milk and nutrigrain bars for months at atime. With baby number 5 she got to a point that she would not stop to eat so we fed her while she played. She will now sit at the table with the family. We also had one that would only eat if she could feed herself, so we let her have at it. I know it is hard not to worry about the nutritional aspects but he will be fine. I do my best to avoid food/potty battles, they are just not worth it to me. It is also important to note that snacks are very important for toddlers. A large percentage of their calorie intake is nade up of snacks. A baby that is over hungry is much like one that is over tired, they just won't eat as well. Just know that this won't last forever, even though it may feel like it. Hang in there.
                  Tara
                  Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PrincessFiona View Post
                    Snacking is totally ok in my book at that age. I always worked in snack time for the toddlers and actually, schools work in snack time for k-4. Teeny tummies = hungry little ones!

                    I would vote with your pedi on this one. Maybe he gets so hungry before meals that it makes him a little frantic? None of my kids are close to being overweight btw.
                    This is a good thought. He does get an afternoon snack at day care and he nurses/has bottles between meals. I spoke with his teachers today and they said that he gets impatient when they prepare his food and then seems overwhelmed when they finally put two or three different kinds of food on his plate. We discussed offering the puree before he sees the table food and then once it is time for the table food, offering one fruit or veggie at a time.

                    The ped was pretty insistant that we do not let him eat lots of puffs, breads, or cereals. He felt that in light of the enormous portions the baby was eating, it was important that he eat nutritious food. Seriously, the way he was eating it was as if he did not have the ability to know when he is full. I was having to cut him off after 3 servings so he wouldn't get sick. DrK has problems with portion-control too and he binges. We don't want him to pick up daddy's bad habits. Incidentally, BabyK is still hovering around the 25th percentile. He's the smallest boy in his class and the biggest eater by far.

                    I do think that it is independence too. Funny, he's independent at meals but then clings to me when I try to put him down.
                    Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                    • #11
                      It's so easy to read our own issues into things ie overeating, binge-eating, not eating enough ... But it is highly unlikely for a 9 mo old to binge eat. My guess is that if he had a morning, afternoon, and before bed snack it would even him out.

                      Also, higher protein/fat foods can satisfy longer. Will he self feed hot dogs, chicken nuggets, fish sticks etc cut up in the appropriate sizes? Hot dogs were a huge hit with my littlest.

                      Oooh. I can't wait to be a mil. LOL

                      Kris
                      ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
                      ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PrincessFiona View Post
                        Also, higher protein/fat foods can satisfy longer. Will he self feed hot dogs, chicken nuggets, fish sticks etc cut up in the appropriate sizes? Hot dogs were a huge hit with my littlest.
                        Nope. He'll only self-feed bread, crackers, cereal, pancakes, and white potatoes (he refuses sweet potatoes). He'll occassionally, rarely, self-feed cucumber slices or dried apples. And he won't let us feed him anything.
                        Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                        • #13
                          Everything Kris has said. I am a pick your battles gal too. Have had kiddos walk around naked most of the day, eat only white food, only eat at the train table,etc. I promise you that they are all nutritionally sound, wear clothes in public, and can eat at a table with manners.
                          Tara
                          Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PrincessFiona View Post
                            My guess is that if he had a morning, afternoon, and before bed snack it would even him out.
                            Oh, and it might help if I explained his eating schedule.

                            He nurses when he wakes at about 6AM. Then has a meal at 8AM. The 8AM meal used to be about 2-3 servings of pureed fruit and pieces of diced fruits and cereal. Now he only eats the cereal.

                            Then he nurses (or if he is at day care drinks a 7oz bottle) around 9:30-10 and has a mini-nap. He'll sleep about 20 minutes.

                            He has lunch around 11-12. Lunch was usually about 2 servings of the puree and pieces of veggies and bread. Now he just eats the bread and drinks water from a sippy cup.

                            After lunch he nurses again or has another 7oz bottle. Then he'll nap from around 1-3.

                            He has a snack when he wakes up. Usually fruit and crackers. Now he just eats the crackers and drinks water from the sippy cup.

                            He nurses again or has another 7oz bottle around 4. If we are lucky, he'll take another 20-minute catnap.

                            Dinner is around 5:30. He used to eat about 2-3 servings of the puree, veggies, fruit, potatos, meat -- basically little pieces of whatever we were eating. Now he just eats the potatoes or screams until we give him crackers, cereal, puffs. Or he insists that he will not be satisfied until we nurse. Dinner is usually done around 6:30.

                            He has a bath around 7:30 and then we nurse until he goes to bed around 8. He used to sleep from 8PM to 6AM. Now he's waking around 3 or 4 AM to nurse.

                            I'm concerned because since he's cut out the purees, veggies, and fruit, he seems a lot hungrier. Basically, he's gotten himself back to cereal and breastmilk.
                            Last edited by MrsK; 10-06-2010, 04:25 PM.
                            Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                            • #15
                              Is he teething? Our kiddos decreased their intake when they teethed and what they did eat was usually something with more substance that they could chew. Would also explain his night waking. Start some baby tylenol or motrin tonight and see if that helps.
                              Tara
                              Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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