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  • Depression in toddlers?

    Disclaimer: I took K to the pediatrician this morning and exam checked out fine....blood work is being run.

    For about two weeks, Kai has been sleeping poorly, always seems tired and has been mopey. He doesn't eat well unless it's one of his favs. When he wakes up (from nap or in the middle of the night) he cries...and holding, rocking, cuddling doesn't stop the crying. Nursing does, but he doesn't always ask for it....as they get older I move towards a "don't offer don't refuse "kinda weaning style....though I've been offering because I don't like the crying. It's that sad tired pathetic kind of cry. The one that just screams "hold me!". Kai has never been like this. He was my great sleeper, my eat anything, happy go lucky kid. We had sleep and eat issues this summer, but no crying, and they resolved. Even v-girl thought he looked off at the park. He didn't seem happy to be there. He will screech and play and go crazy with Daegan, but it's not as often, and in between he's really cranky, whiny, grumpy. He's always tired and ready for a nap. He goes to bed just fine, lays down and falls asleep on his own...he just isn't staying asleep more than 2 hours...and he wakes up ROUGH! He is cutting his last molars, but he never had trouble with the other teeth.

    Anyway, the best description I have for his behaviors is depression. Maybe it is just the adjustment of new baby (7weeks)... Oh and when Russ was gone for the weekend, everything got worse. And he kept asking about daddy. . Poor kid.
    Mom of 3, Veterinarian

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    Hugs to all of you!!

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    • #3
      Could he possibly be having night terrors?
      -L.Jane

      Wife to a wonderful General Surgeon
      Mom to a sweet but stubborn boy born April 2014
      Rock Chalk Jayhawk GO KU!!!

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      • #4
        Or maybe getting ready for an ugly growth spurt? DS and DD2 both endured really disruptive growth spurts.

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        • #5
          I'm thinking that it may be adjusting to the baby. You mentioned that when the three of them want you, you attend to the oldest first. Did you do that before the third was born? Maybe K is suffering from middle child syndrome? Didn't D have trouble sleeping when K came along?
          Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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          • #6
            I don't think it's night terrors because he's awake. It might be nightmares but he's too young to tell me (D will tell me his bad dreams).

            It could be a growth spurt, though it's never been bad like this. If you didn't know Kai, you might not even really think much was wrong....it's just so out of character for him.

            I thought about it being the new baby thing....I guess I figured it would've happened sooner...like right after my parents left or something. It started at a normal seeming time....but it might be related. It definitely worsened when Russ left....and Kai acts more normal when Russ is around. When K was a newborn I tended to D first....but as they got older, I varied it based on whoever I thought needed me more at the time. I honestly don't remember how D was sleeping then. *blush*. D hasn't ever been a great sleeper though, so maybe I just blew off the changes in him.
            Mom of 3, Veterinarian

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            • #7
              I got no advice but I hope Kai feels better soon.

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              • #8
                . Poor Kai. Poor mommy.

                I remember that Andrew experienced a down period after Amanda was born ... at about the same time, Michele! When Amanda was 6 weeks old, Andrew was about 17 months. We moved to America and Thomas' call schedule was crazy. I found Andrew to be clingy and down. I had to make a lot of efforts to steal time alone with him when Amanda napped ... and it was so stressful. It took him some time to adjust to all of the change.

                Do you think similar things could be bugging Kai?

                I've got nothing for you but lots of hugs 'n love.

                Kris
                Last edited by PrincessFiona; 10-16-2010, 07:50 AM.
                ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
                ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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                • #9
                  The new baby thing would make sense. Remember how he reached up for Maggie to carry him instead of running along with the big boys? But the fact that he was so subdued at the play area at CFA has me thinking he just doesn't feel good. He just seemed blah.

                  I did ask G about it. He said if it's a virus, labs may not show anything. I hope he's happy tomorrow at the arboretum. He's such a sweetie!
                  Veronica
                  Mother of two ballerinas and one wild boy

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                  • #10
                    K is just one of those chill two year olds that you almost never knew could exists! But still..... that just seems really off. I have no idea. One thing I do know is if your mom antenna is going off listen to it.
                    Wife to PGY5. Mommy to baby girl born 11/2009. Cat mommy since 2002
                    "“If you don't know where you are going any road can take you there”"

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                    • #11
                      Sounds a little like E...waking up sad or cranky from naps, not eating, wanting to be held a lot more. This is now after a month plus of S being home. Could be a combo of that and growth spurt. You are certainly not alone and I hope it's just a phase.
                      Danielle
                      Wife of a sexy Radiologist and mom to TWO adorable little boys!

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                      • #12
                        Michelle, didn't D go through an "afraid to sleep" phase when K was P's age?

                        Another thought, if you were alternating which boy was tended to first before P was born, maybe you should let K get first pick sometimes so he doesn't always feel like the middle child. That can be a rough spot for a little boy.
                        Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                        • #13
                          Russ was home for breakfast and dinner on Friday and Kai has had a better day today. He didn't sleep perfectly, but he didn't wake up crying like he has been.

                          Hopefully if it was a virus or growth spurt, it's getting better....or will soon.

                          I'm going to try to give him some extra attention as well. Try to keep D occupied w something so K and I can have one on one....maybe the Wii?
                          Mom of 3, Veterinarian

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Michele View Post
                            Russ was home for breakfast and dinner on Friday and Kai has had a better day today. He didn't sleep perfectly, but he didn't wake up crying like he has been.

                            Hopefully if it was a virus or growth spurt, it's getting better....or will soon.

                            I'm going to try to give him some extra attention as well. Try to keep D occupied w something so K and I can have one on one....maybe the Wii?
                            I am glad today was better. I hope he pulls through this soon!
                            -L.Jane

                            Wife to a wonderful General Surgeon
                            Mom to a sweet but stubborn boy born April 2014
                            Rock Chalk Jayhawk GO KU!!!

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                            • #15
                              Glad to hear he's doing better!
                              Veronica
                              Mother of two ballerinas and one wild boy

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