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  • Preschool Concerns

    I need your opinions. Today was my DS1's settling day at a Montessori preschool. I attended with him (i was supposed to, i promise) and was left with a poor impression. However, after obsessing about it all afternoon I'm wondering if I'm being a helicopter parent and just need to get used to the Montessori way.

    My main concern was with the lack of positive interaction with the teachers. We walked in and were briefly introduced to the teachers. that's the only interaction O had with them. I know montessori is child not teacher focused (and I love that) but I got the impression he'd be 100% left to figure it out on his own.

    O has a great attention span and would keep himself busy for hours. He doesnt need lesson plans or to be entertained. However, watching him this morning I'm not sure how much opportunity he'd have to actually work.

    He's the youngest by at least a year and naturally reserved and compliant. He was completely bulldozed and sometimes flat out told to leave by different children each time he got out and started a new piece of work. I was frustrated watching him not know how to use some of the things in the room and got sick of kids telling him that he wasn't allowed to do this or that without any instruction or guidance on how TO use it. I practically had to sit on my hands to avoid intervening while watching kids rip things out of his little hands. He was even slapped once

    Meanwhile the teachers were either at their respective desks or wiping countertops, etc. I get that those things need to be done but there was literally no positive interaction with the kids at all. A few stern "go wash your hands" type of stuff but that was it. There was one little guy who cried by himself for 15+ minutes after his mom left and then wandered aimlessly the rest of the two hours I was there. He got no attention. I'm worried that would be my O.

    Is this normal Montessori stuff? If so, do the more aggressive kids just run the show/control who works with what and how? I'm so confused.

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    No this is not normal! O is at a Montessori prek and it's very structured. There are three teachers to 28 kids and they are guided, engaged and watched like hawks. How old is O?
    Wife to Hand Surgeon just out of training, mom to two lovely kittys and little boy, O, born in Sept 08.

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    • #3
      Oh yeah, aggression is NOT tolerated.
      Wife to Hand Surgeon just out of training, mom to two lovely kittys and little boy, O, born in Sept 08.

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      • #4
        You were very observant. Follow your instincts and find the right fit.
        -Ladybug

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        • #5
          Ummmm, no that is not normal or okay. Listen to your mama instincts.
          Tara
          Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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          • #6
            FWIW, I am a big advocate of montessori and your observations would set my radar off. NOt that I'm o.k. with preschoolers slapping/being aggressive, but some of that kind of behavior is simply developmentally appropriate and teachers can't catch everything. ( A little of this sort of stuff, mind you.) I would be beyond pissed if a kid was left to "self soothe" for 15 minutes. That would send me to the atmosphere.
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            • #7
              This is very similar to what I experienced exploring a Montessori school with my DD. The school just wasn't well run and the teachers weren't great. It was almost as if they used Montessori as an excuse to ignore the children. We found a different school that was a much better fit. I think finding the right preschool is incredibly challenging.


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              • #8
                He's the youngest by at least a year and naturally reserved and compliant. He was completely bulldozed and sometimes flat out told to leave by different children each time he got out and started a new piece of work.
                This is interesting. I know absolutely nothing about Montessori school. However, I had a friend call me the other night with a similar complaint. Her daughter is almost 4yo; she was K1's best friend during residency. She is an only child, very reserved, quiet, and used to spending time with adults. Prior to now, she's had three playmates (K1, a neighbor boy, and a little girl -- all of whom are more active/aggressive than she is). My friend has not observed the class herself but she says that her daughter comes home upset every day complaining that the other children exclude her from activities and tell her that they don't want to be her friend. When my friend asked the teachers about it, wondering if perhaps her daughter was alienating the other children, the teachers seemed unaware of the problem and said that her daughter mostly kept to herself and hung out with adults during recess. I get the impression that there are different schools of thought regarding how much adults should mediate the social interactions of children. However, my friend was distressed that the teachers didn't seem to notice that there may be a problem. I'd be interested to hear comments on this and Bittersweet's observations from those in the group that have participated in Montessori preschools.
                Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                • #9
                  If you didnt like being there, why make O stay there? Don't take him back. Never doubt that gut feeling.
                  Wife to PGY5. Mommy to baby girl born 11/2009. Cat mommy since 2002
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moonlight View Post
                    If you didnt like being there, why make O stay there? Don't take him back. Never doubt that gut feeling.
                    I agree. I would not take him back.
                    Veronica
                    Mother of two ballerinas and one wild boy

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by moonlight View Post
                      If you didnt like being there, why make O stay there? Don't take him back. Never doubt that gut feeling.
                      Yup. All sorts of this. Don't look back. It's not a good fit.

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                      • #12
                        Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was really doubting my instincts and needed your input. He will not be attending. I loved the place when I toured but actually seeing my boy there, no.

                        Originally posted by Deebs View Post
                        It was almost as if they used Montessori as an excuse to ignore the children.
                        This is exactly what I told DH this evening while rehashing the whole thing. And then I promptly did that thing where you start silently crying and can't stop ... in Red Robin. Ugh! High five awkward me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ides View Post
                          No this is not normal! O is at a Montessori prek and it's very structured. There are three teachers to 28 kids and they are guided, engaged and watched like hawks. How old is O?
                          He's 2.5. I really was expecting some guidance. I'm happy to hear what I observed is not Montessori in practice. I really love the idea of it and think it would be a good fit for O. Back to the drawing board.

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                          • #14
                            Your instincts are completely correct. I went to a Montessori school for 6 years and it was never like what you're describing.


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                            • #15
                              Preschool Concerns

                              There is less structure with the 3's but the teachers at Os school are watching, engaged and directing. They don't allow bulling, but they don't make kids be friends either. It gets a lot more structured at 3.5 and up. I've had O in a non-Montessori school where kids run rampant and bully and the teachers just aren't engaging. He was also in an art class/prek at 2.5 that was awesome too. It is SO dependent on the teachers. They are the driving force. It's also impossible to tell if it will be a good fit until your kiddo is there. We lucked out with this amazing prek and are very fortunate. Keep searching and if possible observe the class in session. I know you'll find the right place.
                              Wife to Hand Surgeon just out of training, mom to two lovely kittys and little boy, O, born in Sept 08.

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