Potty Training

[MrsK]

Any tips for quick potty training. Lambie is 3.5yo. She needs to toilet independently to start preschool in 6 weeks. She goes when I tell her but never tells me when she has to go. She's having 4 or more accidents daily and rarely poos in the toilet. I've tried everything. In desperate.

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[SoonerTexan]

Sticker chart?

[OrionGrad]

This might be no help, but with T, I realized he wasn't telling me when he had to go pee because he was afraid of missing out on the fun with his brother. Once I moved the portable potty into the living room (where we play) he was able to go potty without leaving the room. I'm sure having the potty within eyesight provided a visual cue, too.
Not sure if you're also doing treats, but I started giving J the same treat as T whenever T went potty. Suddenly J was invested in the process, so he started reminding T to go potty and/or telling me when he noticed T acting like he had to go.

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Timer? We set a timer and they had to go every time the timer went off. You have to at least TRY to pee when it goes off. Because we were having the same issue as OrionGrad where D didn't want to miss out on playing with C.

Also...we totally did a pantsless juice day with TONS of treats. I set aside a whole morning and PUSHED straight juice (a huge treat in our house) and let them drink constantly. No pants. Whenever they peed, I'd move them to the toilet. Lots of praise and rewards when they did it. This gave them LOTS of reps and interested in the reward. It helped them learn what the urge felt like because it happened every 20 minutes...

Also, the preschool should be willing to remind her if she goes when she's reminded. I know they did at our preschool.

[MrsK]

Sticker chart?

Done it. Also m&m's, stamps, cute underwear, promises that the Diaper Fairy will bring riches....

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[MrsK]

This might be no help, but with T, I realized he wasn't telling me when he had to go pee because he was afraid of missing out on the fun with his brother. Once I moved the portable potty into the living room (where we play) he was able to go potty without leaving the room. I'm sure having the potty within eyesight provided a visual cue, too.
Not sure if you're also doing treats, but I started giving J the same treat as T whenever T went potty. Suddenly J was invested in the process, so he started reminding T to go potty and/or telling me when he noticed T acting like he had to go.

Potty is in the living room and in my car. The boys get rewards for cheering her on. They practically throw a party every time she potties.

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[OrionGrad]

Potty is in the living room and in my car. The boys get rewards for cheering her on.

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Hmm... What do you think the issue is? Do you think she's being stubborn or is it that she just isn't recognizing the sensation when she needs to go?

[MrsK]

Timer? We set a timer and they had to go every time the timer went off. You have to at least TRY to pee when it goes off. Because we were having the same issue as OrionGrad where D didn't want to miss out on playing with C.

Also...we totally did a pantsless juice day with TONS of treats. I set aside a whole morning and PUSHED straight juice (a huge treat in our house) and let them drink constantly. No pants. Whenever they peed, I'd move them to the toilet. Lots of praise and rewards when they did it. This gave them LOTS of reps and interested in the reward. It helped them learn what the urge felt like because it happened every 20 minutes...

Also, the preschool should be willing to remind her if she goes when she's reminded. I know they did at our preschool.

She wears a potty watch which is a timer on her wrist. It plays music every 30 minutes. She muffles it and tells me it didn't go off.

We went pantless for a few days too.

At last year's preschool, she wore pull ups and used the potty watch. They said she did well and to switch to panties. First day in panties, she snuck off and put a pull up on underneath. TODAY, she wet or soiled at least 5 pair of panties. I just discovered she removed wet panties and returned them to her drawer hoping they'd dry because she didn't want to part with them for washing.

Just now, she soiled her pants moments after refusing to try to toilet.

I have willful kids.

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[MrsK]

K2 was like this too. He finally caught on just before he turned 4. If Lambie does that, she'll miss a semester of preschool. This school expects her to toilet independently.

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[MrsK]

Hmm... What do you think the issue is? Do you think she's being stubborn or is it that she just isn't recognizing the sensation when she needs to go?

I don't know. On road trips, she tells us she needs to go. But maybe she just wants to get out of the car enough to go? I've asked her if she feels different before she goes and she looks confused. But she tells me all day long about how pee and poo go in the potty.

K1 was trained by 3 but wore nighttime diapers and had accidents until he was 7. He said he sometimes literally couldn't feel it when he voided. It would come as a complete surprise to him when he was wet. K2 was dry at night by 3 but didn't potty until he was 4. He made it a huge power struggle and yelled that I was a bad mommy every time I took him to the toilet. Lambie sometimes wakes up dry too and taking her to the toilet is like fighting in a cage match.

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[TulipsAndSunscreen]

So would telling her that she can't go to preschool like a big girl help? D spent several months pooping in her pull up during nap when she was completely capable of not doing that. I got fed up and told her that girls who poop in their pull ups couldn't go to preschool. Then I reminded her before nap every week to use the potty as needed. Lo and behold...no poop during nap.

I know for D, getting to be a big girl and go to school was highly motivating.


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[MrsK]

So would telling her that she can't go to preschool like a big girl help? D spent several months pooping in her pull up during nap when she was completely capable of not doing that. I got fed up and told her that girls who poop in their pull ups couldn't go to preschool. Then I reminded her before nap every week to use the potty as needed. Lo and behold...no poop during nap.

I know for D, getting to be a big girl and go to school was highly motivating.


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I've done that too. She very much wants to be a big girl and gets angry when someone calls her little. But when I tell her that big girls use the potty, she starts babbling in babytalk.

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[Thirteen]

After the regression and long hard battle for DS1, I'm pretty much doing nothing until DS2 shows interest or is more verbal (3 in Sept).


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[Thirteen]

Potty Training

I've done that too. She very much wants to be a big girl and gets angry when someone calls her little. But when I tell her that big girls use the potty, she starts babbling in babytalk.

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Maybe this (not being able to attend school) will be the thing that becomes her currency?
She cannot go unless she wants to train, and it has to be her idea. I know that the alternative sucks on your end, but maybe that is just the way it has to be for her to care enough to make it happen?
(DS1 wasn't trained until 4)


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[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Can you just keep it up. Not in a threatening way that big girls who want to go to school use the potty. Reinforce. Every day. All the times.

Will S and J help? Talking about school. Talking about how much fun it is now that they can go and want to go.

I think this would work over the course of a few weeks if not mentioned while you're trying to make her go. Just as a casual aside. "Oh look, there's your school that you can go to when you potty..." "When you go to your school, you'll get a lunchbox but first you have to potty" "[insert older girls name] gets to go to school because she potties"

I know I'm evil. But you KNOW she can do it...


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