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  • Lying

    How do you handle it?

    Lately, Caleb (he is 7) has been less than truthful, always about something small. The biggest offender is when asked if he picked up his dirty clothes, he says yes. Upon checking, I find the clothes stuffed under his bed, tossed in a corner or put back into the drawers. He KNOWS what he is supposed to do, namely put the dirty laundry in the hamper. This has been the same chore for several years, but it is only in the last month or so that he has started lying about it. Now the hamper isn't in his room, but it has never been. It is a sorting type and he knows which goes in which section. It isn't about ability, it is about just plain not doing it because he didn't want to.

    I am sure that the right thing to do is to reward the correct behavior, but honestly, that just isn't going to happen. I don't have the mental wherewithal to say "good job" each time he does this in the morning and again in the evening. I am just plain occupied trying to get everything else together. Rewarding the good behavior would also mean that I would need to go and check that he did it correctly.

    Ugh - who knew that parenting would be so... frustrating, day in and day out.

    But, on the flip side, he continues to delight me. Today, he made himself a cell phone, wallet and super-secret FBI ID out of construction paper. He proceeded to talk to several people, until the phone dropped the signal. Then he sent a few text messages. But the best is that he is carrying around $4.25 in real money in his paper wallet. I think I may need to get him a real wallet for Easter.
    Last edited by HouseofWool; 03-30-2010, 08:35 PM. Reason: because I can't spell...
    Kris

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    That's too sweet about the wallet. There is some seriously high-quality craftsmanship if he's managed to keep the change in it, too!

    As for lying, I always, always, punish lying more severely (for lack of a better word) than I do whatever "crime" they're trying to cover up. If a chore is left undone, he may lose some screen time, but if it's left undone AND he lies about it, he's going to lose screen time PLUS ... (a full day, all electronics, something like that). It goes without saying that they then also still have to complete the chore. My boys know this now, and they'll say "you're glad we told the truth, right??" .

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    • #3
      Wow - I'm sorry that his paper phone keeps losing signal! How cute! As for the lying - I can't offer any advice, but I'm sure you'll figure out a clever solution soon (or he shapes up!)

      Good luck. Savor the cuteness!!
      Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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      • #4
        The kid has almost no screen time at all now because of the chronic lying. I keep taking away things. Tomorrow, a bunch of toys get removed from his room because he isn't keeping them tidy. I just don't know what else to remove. I am guessing that some of this is a reaction to the impending divorce. Or it could just be plain old stubborness.

        The quarter keeps falling out into his pocket. I just hope he remembered to take them out before putting the pants in the hamper!
        Kris

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HouseofWool View Post
          The kid has almost no screen time at all now because of the chronic lying. I keep taking away things. Tomorrow, a bunch of toys get removed from his room because he isn't keeping them tidy. I just don't know what else to remove. I am guessing that some of this is a reaction to the impending divorce. Or it could just be plain old stubborness.
          One of my friends too EVERYTHING out of her kid's room. Absolutely everything. He had a bed, sheets, pillow, blanket. Nothing to cuddle with, nothing to play with. Electronics are a huge incentive for my boys, so they spent a good portion of last summer being "Amish". No electronic anything. I got tired of trying to remember who was allowed on the computer but not the DS or Wii or TV, etc. You don't follow the rules, you lose it ALL.

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          • #6
            It's funny you posted this because my mom just sent me a few blurbs on development/behavior or 6 year olds. The article said that lying was common at this age. It was so important for them to be right that they will start lying or cheating at games. All it said was to be firm and follow through with consequences, and don't freak out that your raising a compulsive liar. I haven't had the lying issue with DD1 so far, but I've been struggling with her competitiveness. Everything, and I mean even the toothpaste, is a competition for DD1. It starts so many fights and it's exhausting. Sorry for the hijack.
            -Ladybug

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            • #7
              Annie - my sister's trick to deal with the competetiveness that arises at this age is that winner has to say "Thanks for playing with me, maybe next time you'll win."
              Kris

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              • #8
                It's definitely a developmental thing- we've seen it here as well. and lying over stupid stuff. We call him out on it immediately and typically remove something 'fun' from his world. We also try to correct whatever it is that he's lied about- if it's chore or responsibility related. the biggest gun I have though is that I tell my mother within earshot. That gets him the most mad, because he LOVES my mother, and she's coming in two weeks and he does not like to disappoint the grandmother.

                Jenn

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                • #9
                  I wish I had the threat of the grandmother, but since we live with her and she is a disciplinarian, that takes the wind out of that particular sale. I find that he appears to be repentent when he is chastised, but it is as if he can't help himself. In the next couple of weeks, he is having a full round of neuro-psych testing as a follow-up for the stroke in '08 and as a part of that, I have asked them to evaluate for ADHD since he seems to be starting to show some of the signs. I have it and several relatives of mine do as well. Lying like this is also part of it. So, it could very well be something he has little control over.
                  Kris

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                  • #10
                    Best of luck to you. I f everything checks out OK with the Neuro/Psych evaluation. If all is OK, I always found that the consequences had to be something that hurt (I don't mean physically). They have to lose something that is important to them. Once you know what his "currency" is, you will have something to bargain with. For my kids it was TV time. What really worked was if one was in trouble, and she lost tv time, it really hurt when she knew her sister was downstairs watching tv. EvilMom......
                    Luanne
                    wife, mother, nurse practitioner

                    "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." (John, Viscount Morely, On Compromise, 1874)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Luanne123 View Post
                      Best of luck to you. I f everything checks out OK with the Neuro/Psych evaluation. If all is OK, I always found that the consequences had to be something that hurt (I don't mean physically). They have to lose something that is important to them. Once you know what his "currency" is, you will have something to bargain with. For my kids it was TV time. What really worked was if one was in trouble, and she lost tv time, it really hurt when she knew her sister was downstairs watching tv. EvilMom......
                      I have yet to figure out his currency. His interests are fleeting and varied. Today is basketball, legos and reading. Tomorrow it could be all of them or none. Short of solitary confinement, I am at a loss with him.
                      Kris

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                      • #12
                        Hang in there. I think I heard this on a Dr. Phil episode, that every kid has a currency, and it is forever changing. You have the tough job of figuring out what it is and when it changes, but they all have a price!!!!!!
                        Luanne
                        wife, mother, nurse practitioner

                        "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." (John, Viscount Morely, On Compromise, 1874)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Luanne123 View Post
                          Hang in there. I think I heard this on a Dr. Phil episode, that every kid has a currency, and it is forever changing. You have the tough job of figuring out what it is and when it changes, but they all have a price!!!!!!
                          Very true -- late chiming in here, but for my sister, it was "privacy" and the ability to go into her room and "shut everyone else out."
                          A punishment? My mom took her bedroom door off its hinges and she had no privacy for a month. Had to get dressed in the bathroom, couldn't talk on the phone with people hearing her conversations, etc.
                          Totally got to her.

                          Is there a school function/big trip at the end of the year that he might be threatened to "miss" should lying continue? Something like that?
                          No experience here, but just a thought.

                          Good luck to you, Kris!!
                          Wife to Family Medicine attending, Mom to DS1 and DS2
                          Professional Relocation Specialist &
                          "The Official IMSN Enabler"

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