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  • The Heavy

    That's me. A certified A-grade bitch. Let's lay out the scene for you:

    Ryan is in a class at school called Science Olympiad. Up until this last year, it was an after school club that kids could participate in and go to science competitions. Now, it is a class that kids can take as one of their electives. Anyway, so a few months ago they had regional competition, and Ryan pretty much carried his team. His teacher is scatterbrained, unorganized, and a mess. For regionals, for example, I didn't know what time to pick him up from competition until he called me to pick him up. I didn't know what time he had to be there until the day before. He didn't get the materials to build an intricate tower until the night before. He didn't get the schedule and know he was going to regionals until about three days (maybe I am remembering it generously) beforehand.

    So, now Ryan's team has qualified for state in a few categories (anatomy, fossils, and tower building). Only Ryan and like 4 or 5 other kids (out of about 100) are going to state. We found out that state competitions were this weekend a few days ago. Sigh. Last night Ryan comes home with a crap ton of busywork to put together binders for the state competition. WTF have they been doing in class? Ryan happens to know almost ZERO about fossils and anatomy.

    Anyway, so Chad and I take Alexia to her softball game last night while Ryan stays home to do his homework. Before we left, we specifically told Ryan not to play XBox while we were gone because if he had too much to do that he couldn't come with us to his sister's game, then he had too much to do to be paying it.

    So, we come home and Ryan has been doing his homework. Good. No XBox has been played. We get Alexia to bed and Chad and I head to the bedroom and lock our door for a little while. After that, I go to sleep and Chad goes out to chart until the wee hours of the morning. Apparently, when he went out of our room, Ryan was playing XBox.

    Ryan has a canned reponse about how he's been working soooo hard and just wanted a break. I get that. We all need study breaks, but he knows he is in trouble. Apparently, he still has hours left of work to be done. XBox is a hot button issue at this house. So, dh tells him to finish his game and then continue studying or go to bed. Ryan finishes his game and heads to bed.

    Chad tells me the scenario in the morning. I ask him why he didn't take his XBox away and shut it off right then. Chad says, well, we told him not to play it while we were gone, and he came and tried to ask us, but our door was locked.

    So, I exit the room and go to the XBox and take the game and the headset away. Ryan flips out and breaks down. He didn't play it while we were gone! He just needed a break. He tried to ask us but the door was locked. So, once again I am the heavy. I feel like he is old enough and smart enough to know that this little loop hole wasn't really the right thing, but hoped he would get away with it.

    DH then accuses me of overreacting and taking away the XBox because Ryan is playing Call of Duty Black Ops (I hate the game - it's no secret). I accuse him of not being a parent and enforcing rules.

    So, once again I come off as an overbearing bitch, and dh is the nice one. I feel like I can't win, and I hate that this is the dynamic, but I feel like someone has to enforce rules and consequences. Ugh. Am I being a bitch here, or did dh not step up the way he was supposed to?
    Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.



  • #2
    Being unable to get permission to do something does NOT give a child permission to do it. I would have done the same thing.
    Veronica
    Mother of two ballerinas and one wild boy

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    • #3
      Originally posted by v-girl View Post
      Being unable to get permission to do something does NOT give a child permission to do it. I would have done the same thing.
      This 100%. You did the right thing. I'm sorry your DH isn't stepping up like he should and backing the rules.
      Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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      • #4
        I don't give advice on teenagers because I don't have one - but WTF is up with this science teacher???
        Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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        • #5
          Hmm, I don't know... This definitely falls into a gray area of supporting each other's parenting. Your rule was followed (no playing while you were gone), then your husband's rule was followed (stop after that game). He probably knew better than to play during the interim, but if you occasionally let him play during homework breaks, I'd probably let it slide.
          Laurie
          My team: DH (anesthesiologist), DS (9), DD (8)

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          • #6
            It sucks only being the heavy. It really does. I hate loop-hole infractions because they put up very good arguments as to why it was okay. If an unspoken rule was violated (and I would agree that it was) then the consequence seems appropriate. I hate the whole, finish a level before quitting a game excuse. Honestly, as busy as Chad is, he really does just need to back you up. YOU are the one setting the boundaries because HE isn't. Changing the boundaries shouldn't happen in the middle of situation with the kids.
            Kris

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ladymoreta View Post
              Hmm, I don't know... This definitely falls into a gray area of supporting each other's parenting. Your rule was followed (no playing while you were gone), then your husband's rule was followed (stop after that game). He probably knew better than to play during the interim, but if you occasionally let him play during homework breaks, I'd probably let it slide.
              That's my thought too...I remember trying to find loopholes like that all the time when I was younger!

              My main issue with this post is that science teacher!!!! That is just ridiculous! She sounds like she's either a complete flake or that she just doesn't care.
              I'm just trying to make it out alive!

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              • #8
                I'm the heavy in our house too, Heidi. I would have done the exact same thing!
                Married to a peds surgeon attending

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                • #9
                  Heidi:

                  A heavy? PLEASE! I won't even allow an XBox in our house.

                  You did the right thing. You kid is super-duper bright. He knew he shouldn't have been doing that.

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                  • #10
                    It's very difficult to second guess a parenting decision when your child is not involved. In this case it seems to me that Ryan deserved a pass. He did follow the letter of the law by not playing when you guys were at the softball game. He did "try" to ask for permission but the door was locked. I don't know if you have a rule about locked doors, so I can't comment about how hard he should have tried. He did as Chad asked when he was found playing the Xbox. Most importantly he is a good kid with lots of deposits in the responsibility bank. If he was a screw off and the Xbox got in the way of his school work etc. then I think it would be a different discussion. Is he allowed to take breaks from school work or does everything have to be complete before he can stop? There are just lots of variables here. In this instance I think his teacher is the largest variable. Due to her disorganization he was left with what seems to be an unreasonable amount of work to complete in one night, basically Ryan is being punished because his teacher is an idiot. Kids feel so much pressure and lots of times they don't express that to us as their parents until they are ready to blow (junior year of high school is like intern year, seriously, be ready for it). I am sure Ryan knows that the class relies on him to do well at state and may be freaking out about that.

                    Anyway, I think this can be a very teachable moment for Ryan. Now that the initial blow up is past maybe you, Chad and Ryan can sit down and discuss the situation, you expectations for the future, and his feelings on school, this particular class, and what happened last night. I think the conversation will quickly turn from the Xbox to bigger stuff and allow Ryan to open up. With some of our kids they open up right away (and won't stop talking), with others it takes a very very long time. As they are hitting high school kids really need to feel that they are heard. I'm not saying he isn't but kids seem to have very different perceptions of reality and they sometimes need to be reminded that their parents want the best for them.

                    Like I said, it is hard to make judgments for other kids, parents, families because there is always more to the story. Hang in there, this parenting stuff is hard
                    Tara
                    Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                    • #11
                      1.) Science Olympiad teacher is a disorganized dumbass. DD1's band directors are exactly like that and it seriously drives me bonkers. We found out two days ago that the state concert band competition is today. I'm not happy with such late notice. And it isn't just that our kid isn't telling us. They have a FB page and just added the info a couple days ago.

                      2.) I would have flipped my shit. Hard.

                      Full disclosure: we are SUPER strict. Our kids have been taught from as early as possible that pushing their boundaries and trying to exploit loopholes will end in them being grounded from whatever they were attempting to manipulate for more time AND every other privilege. And finishing chores/homework ALWAYS happens before anything else.

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                      • #12
                        You are not overreacting. They need to learn that they need to discern when to take liberties and when not to. He was told no xbox mostly bc of the boatload of homework. He is clever enough to follow that reasoning to the conclusion that no xbox until the homework is done. Blowing off steam, taking a break can be achieved by other means. Gaming can turn into hours long, much more than just grabbing a snack or going on a walk... He knew that he should ask permission, your door was locked, yet he decided to go forward with his gaming.

                        We have dealt with this before. I am the heavy always. It sucks. This us why when our 15 yo is grounded I take her cell and her iPod touch. Before we just took her cell, but we found out she was just going on fb with the touch, so now she loses everything.
                        Peggy

                        Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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                        • #13
                          Why was your door locked anyway? JUST KIDDING!

                          I agree with everyone else. Maybe you weren't crystal clear, but he should have asked for permission.
                          married to an anesthesia attending

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by alison View Post
                            Why was your door locked anyway?
                            We were doing taxes. Yeah, taxes.

                            We'll talk to Ryan some more tonight.
                            Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Vanquisher View Post
                              We were doing taxes. Yeah, taxes.

                              We'll talk to Ryan some more tonight.
                              married to an anesthesia attending

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