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Hi from Whit,- new, scared and needing advice

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  • #16
    Welcome! You've found us just in time - please stick around, this place is a goldmine of support and insight, among other things!

    So...I can really relate to how you feel. While I understand and agree with some of what other people have said, I just want to let you know you're not alone in panicking thinking that the medical career will essentially steal your loved one from you - whether it's physically or emotionally, or both. I had all of those same fears, and still experience some of them.

    Our background: we were together for 6 years prior to medical school. We got engaged six months before we found out he'd been accepted. We went through two application cycles. We were married about six weeks before we moved away for him to start first year. I hated moving. I hated where we had to move to - and TBH, I still don't like it. I hated that so much of what we had changed. Prior to medical school, in the 4 years we had between undergrad and starting med school, we both worked for two years in the same business park area. Which meant we frequently had lunches and worked the same hours. Saw each other all the time. Had the same schedule. For approx 1.5 years after that/before we started med school, we worked at the same hospital, working the exact same hours, riding to and from work together , etc. We were literally together 24/7 some weeks (aside from time at work, even though we would pass each other in the hospital, had lunches almost every day, met for coffee, etc.). It was wonderful for me. And for him. The adjustment to medical school was so, SO rough for me. Less so for him, because he was finally realizing his dream and he's more independent than I was/am.

    To keep this short - my cliffsnotes are basically: this lifestyle is a huge adjustment. Personally, I have had to let go of some of the things I realy thought I wanted for my life: i.e.: the guarantee that we'll be able to live where we want; that my husband will be home for dinner at 6pm every night like my dad was; that my husband will be able to be a very present coparent; that my husband won't miss important child milestones or achievements or holidays. His career choice has actually made me question whether I want children - it seems like a fairly raw single parenting deal for many of the arduous training years. Selfishly, it's hard for me to accept that strangers will often be more important to him than me or his children if he's working. If we have an emergency but he's at the hospital working - there's not much he can do. Those sick patients relying on him to help them would trump me every time. That's a bitter pill for me to swallow, and I know it sounds selfish. His schedule will always be unforgiving. The rewards will largely only be felt by him - as the spouse, no one will recognize you in publications or at awards banquets, etc. The role of the trailing spouse is tough. But as I've told my therapist (who I had to find during our first year of med school because I was depressed) all of that shitty doctor-lifestyle stuff that you hear about and have to worry about doesn't outweigh how much I love him and want to be with him. It sounds pretty trite, but it's true.

    I'm trying really hard myself to not focus on all the ways I'm worried that he'll disappoint me or won't be able to live up to what I thought I wanted. It's not a fair way to think. And honestly, he's really come through for me in many, many ways in our two years of medical school. He hasn't changed, if I'm being honest. He's more distracted sometimes, he's less focused and forgets more of the things I tell him, but that's okay. He makes a huge effort to be with me when he can and I can't really say that I feel like I've been abandoned or taken a backseat to medical school. I think what's more important to me is that when he's off the clock and not in doctor mode, he's still him. And he is, so far.

    There are so many changes and challenges to worry about. That can't be avoided and it sucks. It's a really scary time for medicine and lots of what you hear as a med student/spouse is REALLY bleak and it is enough to drive you to tears thinking "god what did he/I get myself/ourselves into" because of so many healthcare changes. It's scary, and I don't know what to expect most of the time. But I love my husband and I trust him and I admire him, and I respect how hard he works to keep as many options open for us as possible. Coming to iMSN has taught me that a happy and fulfilling marriage and home life is not only entirely possible, but is the norm with a doctor spouse. There are disappointments and struggles and lonely times, yes, and some specialties are more unforgiving than others, but ultimately you will find here a cohort of spouses who are in it 100% with the people they love and are rewarded with successful, loving, dedicated spouses who make them happy and are wonderful partners and parents. I think there is a lot to think about when you consider other careers as well - my husband's father traveled 5 days a week for YEARS when my husband was a kid. He'd fly out on Sunday night and back in on Friday - only seeing his wife and two sons for about 14 hours before doing it all again. That's far more intense than you'd find with a doctor. Many careers are demanding, many careers force you to relocate to where the jobs are/where the demand is.

    The prospect of a medical lifestyle can be bleak if you had certain expectations of your spouse/marriage - and I am saying that as someone who had all of those expectations. But it can and often is as happy and as normal as many other careers may be. If you love him, don't give up on him or his dream career. Share here, cumulatively, we've been through it all.
    Last edited by WolfpackWife; 06-27-2014, 10:44 AM.
    Wife, support system, and partner-in-crime to PGY-3 (IM) and spoiler of our 11 y/o yellow lab

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    • #17
      I've been around medicine my entire life, so the lifestyle wasn't exactly a shock. It never occurred to me to consider breaking up with my dude when he got accepted to med school.

      It is, however, a huge adjustment. It's absolutely normal to get freaked out by such high paradigm shifts, though.

      Hang in there. You've come to the right place.

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      • #18
        since only a few talk about it-- i think it takes commitment and sacrifice to maintain a relationship. whether you have it or not, i don't know. i can tell you i did not (and maybe do not). my gf accepted place that was only 2 hr drive. she apply to places that were more than 8 hr drive. if she would have gone to those places, it would have been over. she apply to specialty that she was within her 'reach' base on her stat even though she truly wanted derm. she could have aim for derm but probably would not be able to stay in area. now if she follow her dream, would i have stay with her? i don't know. by then, we were married with 1 kid. sacrifice would have to be made. she decided to aim for a less competitive specialty (yes, i was actively lobbying for a lesser specialty) life in medicine is about commitment and sacrifice. it's not a cake walk. i don't recommend it unless you/him are determine or a fool.

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        • #19
          Welcome Whit! So glad you've found this site - I know it's been a godsend for me!

          You are right - it is hard (REALLY hard) to be a medical spouse. It involves a lot of moving (with little or no choice where), being pulled away from family and support systems, starting new jobs, a lot of time alone. And of course dealing with the infuriating general public opinion that med spouses are "set for life" and "snared themselves a doctor" as if this was our sneaky, conniving life-plan all along and not the sometimes earth-shattering, soul-searching, miserably depressing journey that it truly is.

          But, even with how much it sucks sometimes, it is doable. In a weird way, I think my DH and I have a stronger relationship now, even though we spend a lot less time together. It's bc we have to make our time together count, and it's so much more precious to us.

          A lot of it has to do with your own perspective too. I think to have a successful medical marriage, the other spouse has to be "all in". To me this means being your spouses' biggest supporter and realizing that you are on the "same team" with the same eventual goals and values. I have come to appreciate my role as cheerleader, knowing that I am making my husband's life easier in small ways by managing finances, housekeeping, etc. (bc let's face it, medical training is by no means a walk in the park for them either!).

          Being a medical spouse isn't for everyone, it's true. But if you truly love this man, don't let your fears of the future make you throw it all away. Take everything one day at a time for a bit, see how it goes. I know it's scary - I think all of us have been through the "what if's" and fears for the future. You're not alone.

          "Embrace the struggle, enjoy the journey". It is life-changing, and not all in a bad way
          PA and wife of a PGY2 in neurosurgery. And "cat-mom" to the two sweetest cats anyone could hope for.

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          • #20
            Welcome, I am just a few months ahead of you. My fiance was accepted into medical school from the wait list one month before school started (end of May). We had pretty much decided before that he wanted me to go with him and I wanted to go with him. I was unsure someone would even want to deal with a spouse during medical school but he assured me he did multiple times. Of course I had the year during applications to think about it but I basically blocked it out and didn't think about it until he found out he was on waiting lists. Over the month before school started I decided to be all in, like others mentioned. I quit my nice paying job, said goodbye to my entire (and his) family, packed up my entire apartment, loaded a truck and drove across the country. I am thinking of it as our own little adventure. When else do you have the excuse to live a bunch of places for a few years?! I would NEVER to do that if it wasn't for him and medical school. I know in the future we will look back on this time as something irreplaceable.

            The ONE question you have to ask yourself is: If you break up with him, will you wonder if it would have worked out?

            For me the answer was yes and that's why I'm all in.
            Wife of PGY-2 Gen Surg, gluten/dairy free cook and patron to a big black cat

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            • #21
              Hi! Welcome! I am still pretty new here too with my 40 posts, but I've been lurking a lot and these ladies and gentlemen know what's up. My DH is finishing his MS1 year in May, so we're not too far ahead of you.

              I remember feeling very fearful of the future and the lack of control I'd have over my own life due to his career. I still feel that sometimes, and I suppose I will continue to feel that way at different points down the road. Here are some things I try to do/remind myself of when I get stressed out:

              1. Meet other med students and becoming friends with them, and definitely try to befriend their SOs if they have them. Your guy will likely be in a class of 100+, and I promise he will not be the only one in a serious relationship.

              2. For better or for worse, med school does not happen in a vacuum. Just because he's doing this really big thing doesn't mean the rest of his life or your life gets put on hold. There will be things totally unrelated to med school that are worth celebrating, contemplating, and grieving. That's just life. Med school will take a huge chunk of time, but it's not the only thing y'all will have going on.

              3. Another "for better or for worse" thing...med school and medical training take a really. long. time. It's not like he'll start and then you'll be dealing with 80+ hour weeks right away. You will have time to adjust to each phase, and no one expects you to master each phase right away (if ever, really).

              4. Therapy. Like another poster above, I started seeing a therapist after we moved for MS1. It's been wonderful, and she's helped me realize that it's not 100% my responsibility to support him and encourage him all the time, that I can still have certain reasonable expectations, and that, yes, sometimes I will not be #1 but that doesn't mean my marriage is over. At one point during a session, she said that I can walk with DH through med school and she will walk with me. Friends and family are wonderful support groups, but I've found therapy to be most helpful with learning to accept things as they are and then figuring out how to live effectively in a given situation. I highly recommend!

              I hope that you do not leave an otherwise healthy and loving relationship because a fear of the unknown. It is hard, but a lot of things are. It can also be really wonderful, too. Good luck!

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