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What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

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  • #16
    Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

    How did I come to my beliefs? So many factors, including family, environment, religious beliefs, experiences, and just plain old thought processes. I respect any beliefs or attitudes, no matter how different they are from mine, when there is reason and sound thought behind it. I take each issue by itself and have trouble with party affiliation, though this may stem mostly from seeing my parents switch sides. My dad started as a republican married to a social democrat and now they have both moved to the other sides as a result of their own experiences.

    I find that hardships changed my views, especially when they came after feeling I did things "the right way" and played by the rules, but still got screwed. I have too much pride (so personality plays a role too) to accept help. The one time I tried, for health insurance, I was turned down. But then I sucked it up and survived. That doesn't mean I still don't feel like we should protect the weaker members of our society, but I think the fishing pole approach is far better than the fish. I also think that protecting the weak can get confused with protecting the irresponsible, the entitled and the parasites. Where I start to get labelled conservative is where I draw the line and feel that those who bust their arses to make a better life should not then pick up the slack for those who are unwilling to put in the same efforts.

    And though I would not call myself nationalistic, I do believe that the best way to interact with the world internationally is to take care of our own country, growth and health, security as a first priority, then to have policies that can offer fair interactions. The "how" of htese things is where I start to get more liberal. I do not feel that outsourcing security is a reduction in govt spending or even remotely a good idea without oversight. I also do not feel that govt needs to be subsidizing in ANY way industries such as auto or oil. Hasn't the historic strenght of the US been it's role on the leading edge of tech and breakthroughs! Why hinder this? I am also quite appalled that we can spend so much on the war and rebuilding abroad, yet the same amount here would do wonders to improve education, technology (Yeah, I think interent at every library is a necessity) and general infrastructure. I'm not afraid of a country where everyone can read, even if I don't think the center of the bell curve can make a good decision.

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    • #17
      Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

      Originally posted by planet
      My dad started as a republican married to a social democrat and now they have both moved to the other sides as a result of their own experiences.
      My DH and I, I think, had similar influences on each other. After years of debate and discussion, I came to agree with him on the issue of abortion and he came to agree with me in terms of my lack of enthusiasm about the death penalty (I wouldn't characterize myself as a hard-core death penalty opponent, but I have grave concerns about it on a number of grounds).

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      • #18
        Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

        My family is splintered. My parents are quite conservative. They are all about self-sufficiency and believe in helping others only through private charities. My grandparents are liberal, and say they started voting Dem after the whole Nixon thing. That ruined it for them. (Although Grandpa voted for W one time b/c he was so worried about Gore not being able to handle terrorism.) Grandpa was also a big union supporter.

        I grew up in a very democrat leaning state (not nearly as much as Maryland, though), but in our side of the state we were pretty much republican. There was a mock election in my high school, and we went with republicans by 80%. (I think that was the Dole/Clinton race! ) In general, I would say that the feeling where I grew up was that government intrusion was bad, and that taxes were bad, and that bureaucrats are bad. Big gov't was very suspect. I think in the "west" this feeling is very much present-- people accept government intrusion and layers and layers of duplicitous taxes out here in Maryland. I mean, Seattle, though liberal, voted down the coffee tax. But the Marylanders seem excited about a sales tax hike, that will affect everyone... :huh:

        Ultimately, like my Grandpa and the whole Nixon thing, I think I will always lean republican because I was so sickened by the Clinton/Monica scandal. I got up early to watch the televised grand jury thing (I think it was grand jury testimony) and saw where Clinton said he never had sex with that girl... and I wanted to believe him (I was, I think 16), but then you all know what happened. It just made me sick. I don't care that he was fooling around exactly- everyone knew that, but why lie about it? Why assume you won't get caught? It turned me off Dem early on.

        Now, I am pretty much a socially conservative person, but I do believe that we need some social programs to take care of some people. I don't think everyone can do it all on their own. I also am not a very nationalistic person. I was in support of Clinton going into Bosnia to help curb ethnic cleansing there, and I was in support of going in to Iraq for the same reason. I am also not sold on being entirely anti-affirmative action. My husband did benefit from affirmative action, but the challenges he had to overcome to even get to the point where he could graduate from high school are absolutely staggering. I don't think affirmative action should be race-based alone, but should be socioeconomic. It is really really hard for some people to make it out of the situation they were born into. (DH got into med school for some of his stories, I think. But he's clearly able to hack it intellectually- he works hard, and it's not easy, but he's smart and talented.) And, I am pro-life, but I have tremendous sympathy for any woman who has felt that abortion is the only option. I don't like federal funds being spent on abortion clinics.

        I'm still young, but I feel comfortable with my political stance now... I don't like taxes.
        Peggy

        Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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        • #19
          Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

          Seriously, I don't care whether people are liberal/conservative/green/blue/red...

          but it makes me screaming mad when people don't vote 'because it doesn't matter'. ARGGGHHHH.

          It DOES matter. I can't even understand not voting. How can someone who resides in this country w/ all of our attendent freedoms NOT VOTE?

          Not voting is abdicating responsibility for the future to other people. I mean, would you let someone else pick your house? Car? Spouse? Children? Then why would you (the rhetorical you, of course) let someone else pick your government?

          Oh, it just steams me.

          Jenn

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          • #20
            Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

            Nope, just standing on my soapbox, preaching to the choir...to mix some metaphors.

            I was thinking of some of my former staff people...

            but I can't think about it because I must go drive and I must not be angry and driving.

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            • #21
              Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

              Originally posted by DCJenn
              Seriously, I don't care whether people are liberal/conservative/green/blue/red...

              but it makes me screaming mad when people don't vote 'because it doesn't matter'. ARGGGHHHH.

              It DOES matter. I can't even understand not voting. How can someone who resides in this country w/ all of our attendent freedoms NOT VOTE?

              Not voting is abdicating responsibility for the future to other people. I mean, would you let someone else pick your house? Car? Spouse? Children? Then why would you (the rhetorical you, of course) let someone else pick your government?

              Oh, it just steams me.

              Jenn
              ITA. People risk their lives every day for this right. It matters.

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              • #22
                Re: What do you consider yourself politically and WHY?

                I also think that protecting the weak can get confused with protecting the irresponsible, the entitled and the parasites.
                I like this Planet very perceptive.

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