Vaccine refusals fuel jump in measles outbreaks

[Rapunzel]

Re: Vaccine refusals fuel jump in measles outbreaks

Even if your child is only getting two or three shots they are very often getting quite a few different vaccines (way more than 2 or 3) because so many are bundled now into the same shot.

So, while your child might only receive two injections your child might still be receiving five or six immunizations all at once.

[spotty_dog]

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So, while your child might only receive two injections your child might still be receiving five or six immunizations all at once.

I don't think anyone here had any confusion on that point. :huh:

For what it's worth the anti-vax populations I'm familiar with have researched thoroughly, most reference Dr. Sears' Vaccine Book, and many are interested in picking up on a delayed schedule after age 2 or 5, whichever their own research has led them to believe is safest.

[SuzySunshine]

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If any of you get Redbook I just got the new issue yesterday (Trisha Yearwood is on the cover) there is an article about a family with autism and there is also an article about Jenny McCarthy's "cause." Both are well written, I think.

[Rapunzel]

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So, while your child might only receive two injections your child might still be receiving five or six immunizations all at once.

I don't think anyone here had any confusion on that point. :huh:

For what it's worth the anti-vax populations I'm familiar with have researched thoroughly, most reference Dr. Sears' Vaccine Book, and many are interested in picking up on a delayed schedule after age 2 or 5, whichever their own research has led them to believe is safest.

I thought that the issue with spacing immunizations was the concern that a young child would have their immune system "overloaded" by too many vax at once. So, the idea that a child is getting "only" two vaccinations is misleading. Since we were talking about spacing I thought I'd bring up that point.

I'm curious to know what the research is regarding the idea that more than two or three immunizations at once is harmful? I honestly don't know if there is such research and if it is viable or not.

[spotty_dog]

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I thought that the issue with spacing immunizations was the concern that a young child would have their immune system "overloaded" by too many vax at once. So, the idea that a child is getting "only" two vaccinations is misleading. Since we were talking about spacing I thought I'd bring up that point.

Delayed vaccination proponents are seeking out sources of monovalent vaccinations, or evaluating the simple math that tells them that if you take the four multivalent injections and space them out over multiple visits, the child is receiving fewer antigens at each visit, regardless of the number of antigens in each syringe.

I'm curious to know what the research is regarding the idea that more than two or three immunizations at once is harmful? I honestly don't know if there is such research and if it is viable or not.

Semantic point, BTW, but the original subject of this thread drives home the point that *vaccination* is not synonymous with *immunization*. Not all who receive vaccines are immunized against the diseases therein; some of the people who have come down with measles have been vaccinated.

I'm remaining willfully ignorant on the subject of childhood immunology so that I can conscientiously continue to follow the recommended vaccine schedule. However, in the veterinary world, I was quite convinced by the research of Drs. Jean Dodds and Richard Pitcairn (unaffiliated with each other) who indicated that the immune system does not respond as we might expect when assaulted by multiple antigens at once. In many cases immune hypersensitivity (allergies) and autoimmune disorders can be traced back to the use of multivalent vaccines (especially when applied multiple times as is typical in veterinary medicine), presumed to be caused by the immune system reacting to the onslaught by considering everything an "enemy". After all, injection of virus directly into the bloodstream is hardly an entry pathway that the body is adapted to handle, much less the injection of multiple unrelated antigens along with the adjuvant chemicals added to "boost" the immune response.

[Rapunzel]

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Very interesting. I'll have to google those names and read what I can.

[spotty_dog]

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Very interesting. I'll have to google those names and read what I can.

I am under the impression that Sears' Vaccine Book also presents a case for delayed vaccinations and alternate schedules, if you wanted to check out something with a human bent.

[SuzySunshine]

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So did anyone watch Oprah today? Jenny McCarthy was on and as you probably know she has (had?) a son with autism. She claims he is cured and has written a new book partially about it.

http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Warrior...2293627&sr=8-1

I haven't read the book and if she truly did "cure" her son, good for her but of course the doctors were the bad guys again and the vaccines were the bad guys again. I wish Oprah would have had Dr Oz on at the same time to give a medical perspective. :huh:

[Rapunzel]

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Well, if she did cure her son of autism then she stands to make a financial killing selling the "cure" to others.

[KCwife]

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We vax, on schedule. I agree with JennP on peds needing to be willing to explain and answer questions. DD2 got the rotavirus vaccine back in 1999 right before it was recalled and had BAD gastro issues from it. I had wished at the time that I had done more research myself but I was young and felt pressured (like I would be a bad mom if I declined the elective vax ) We elected to get DD1 the HPV vax after DH and I researched it for ourselves.