Delayed Vaccination Schedule

[SoonerTexan]

I think it is the early age (right before sexually active teen years) that bothers most. Either way, that's not really my main concern. Just trying to explain why it bothers others.

[HouseofWool]

I know, I'm all rainbows and sunshine.

bwahahahah!

[HouseofWool]

I think it is the early age (right before sexually active teen years) that bothers most.

So, if it were shown to be safe and effective if given as an infant/toddler, would that be less onerous?

[diggitydot]

Either way, that's not really my main concern. Just trying to explain why it bothers others.

Ah, gotcha. That makes sense.

[PrincessFiona]

My 15 yr old had gardasil ... but doesn't have a clue what her vaccines are for. My 17 yr old bot has gotten it too, l believe.

For me this has nothing to do with teen sex. If you meet your mate at 25 and you have each had other partners ....

[peggyfromwastate]

I think it is the early age (right before sexually active teen years) that bothers most. Either way, that's not really my main concern. Just trying to explain why it bothers others.

I had my dd get the gardasil at age 12. The ped told her this was a med to protect against HPV, but it is not a drug to prevent all the nastiness you get from unprotected sex.

Honestly your approach to this type of thing will probably evolve as your kids get older. It is hard to imagine a baby doing things like unprotected sex... But I'm telling you that if there were a Vax I could give dd against making any and all stupid choices I'd be all over it.

My point is that it is pure propaganda that this Vax is interpreted by teens as a Get Out Of STD Land Free card. That is not even on the radar, and the young teens are being well informed of what this Vax is for.

I'm glad boys are getting it now... And obvs all my kids will be getting it.

[houseelf]

But I'm telling you that if there were a Vax I could give dd against making any and all stupid choices I'd be all over it.

Omg, yes! YES! YES!

We selectively vax. I'm not doing hep A, rota or HPV. Hep A- I'm not vaccinating my kid to protect adults, and that's the only reason why we vax healthy kids. Rota- makes me nervous considering the problems w the last rota. HPV- I have all sons. When they turn 13 they can choose if they want the shot themselves. I also delayed mmr as long as I could while still being within the CDC recommended time and did hep b one month out from birth. I've never had a problem finding a pediatrician.

Without going into too much detail, I work with a lot of crunchy patients. Some people refuse everything. I've even had patients refuse initially rhogam, believe it or not. I don't feel I could ethically fire a patient for refusing aspects of care. The alternative would be no care and I don't think I would be able to do that to someone, unless they were just a huge PITA. I'd rather have them at the hospital receiving care (even if they do refuse some parts) than giving birth at home or god forbid even unassisted.

As an addendum, while I don't feel I could fire them from care, I would *heavily* document their refusal in the event it ever went to court.

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

I thought this was interesting:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vac...evaccines.html

The last question addresses the idea of the immune system being "overwhelmed" with so many vaccines at once. Seems like compared to a common cold/strep throat, vaccines aren't that many antigens for the baby to be "overwhelmed" by. I wonder about the preservative argument too because all foods have preservatives in them (unless you're basically living off the land exclusively) so I'm sure some of them pass to the baby in mama's milk.

[spotty_dog]

It's my understanding that the argument in The Vaccine Book is against the aluminum in the adjuvant, not just the preservatives (although he may suggest avoiding mercury-containing thimerosal-preserved vaccines – like I said, I haven't read the book).

[Pollyanna]

I agree with Cassy. I think you'll be surprised that the book is not at all anti-vax as people want you to believe.

[diggitydot]

Holly - I feel like an idiot, but I must have missed it. What do you do?

Typed on phone. Sorry for typos.

I'm sorry, in May I'll be a CNM, so long as I pass boards. So in other words, right now I do nothing.

I don't blame peds who fire patients, I just don't think I could ever do it, at least that's what I think at this point in my career. Of course, ob is different from peds and I have a lot less to lose (in terms of money and time put in) than an MD. I just think about what happened with VBACs. Acog released a more restrictive vbac statement sometime around 2003 that caused a lot of obs and hospitals to stop offering vbacs. So the rate of homebirth vbac rose as patients were refusing to accept elective c section as their only choice. Acog recently has released a less restrictive vbac statement that has allowed more obs and hospitals to again start offering vbacs. hopefully this will decrease the rate of homebirth vbacs. I just hate the idea if refusing patients who are refusing some aspects of their care because those people are going to do what they want. I'd rather them have some sort if care or medical oversight than just go completely off the radar.

[MarissaNicole]

I just read in consumer reports about giving the HPV vaccine to boys. Turns out HPV can be caught orally and lead to oral cancers. For that reason its been approved for boys as well. Just thought that was interesting and just another reason to add it to kids regular vaccinations.



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