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Autism - A "Recoverable Disorder" ?

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  • Autism - A "Recoverable Disorder" ?

    I ran across a local center that focuses on behavioral and cognitive therapy as a means of early intervention with children, diagnosed with autism.
    I thought that was a fantastic idea, until I read that they believe it is a "recoverable disorder."
    As some of you might know, my brother (25) is autistic, high-functioning. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this too much, but when I read that, I felt discouraged, because it sounds like the center is suggesting it is a CURABLE problem.
    I do not believe autism is curable.

    Is that what they are claiming?
    (I'm asking because a friend of mine mentioned it in passing, and wants to have her child tested).
    Wife to Family Medicine attending, Mom to DS1 and DS2
    Professional Relocation Specialist &
    "The Official IMSN Enabler"

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    Yeah, I think it hinges on what they mean by "recoverable". There is no cure, whatsoever, but early intervention and therapies can be exceedingly helpful for some people.

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    • #3
      I have no idea what they mean by "recoverable". Do they have a website?
      Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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      • #4
        Recoverable? I also wonder what they mean. I have experienced that some on the spectrum can learn appropriate behaviors and have an improved quality of life ...
        ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
        ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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        • #5
          Does "recoverable" mean "curable"? If so, why don't the say "curable"?

          Honestly, it sounds like the "pray the gay away" mentality of some homosexuality therapists. Wishful thinking on the part of the proponent.

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          • #6
            It's the Jenny McCarthy theory of autism. Change diet, give some supplements and boom! Cure. A lot of those pushing this are saying it's the "biomedical" interventions (so not the PT, OT that we associate with improving function of people with autism) that is the cure or recovery. I think "recovery" is actually beyond a cure - the autism will be gone, and the person will regain function that was once there and was lost.
            -Deb
            Wife to EP, just trying to keep up with my FOUR busy kids!

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            • #7
              Wasn't the crazy Brit who started the "vaccines cause autism" theory practicing in TX at one point? I wonder I you're running into his ilk.
              Married to a Urology Attending! (that is an understated exclamation point)
              Mama to C (Jan 2012), D (Nov 2013), and R (April 2016). Consulting and homeschooling are my day jobs.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Deebs View Post
                It's the Jenny McCarthy theory of autism. Change diet, give some supplements and boom! Cure. A lot of those pushing this are saying it's the "biomedical" interventions (so not the PT, OT that we associate with improving function of people with autism) that is the cure or recovery. I think "recovery" is actually beyond a cure - the autism will be gone, and the person will regain function that was once there and was lost.
                This is what I was going to say. Didn't McCarthy say her son was cured of his autism completely by taking probiotics?
                Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TulipsAndSunscreen View Post
                  Wasn't the crazy Brit who started the "vaccines cause autism" theory practicing in TX at one point? I wonder I you're running into his ilk.
                  Andrew Wakefield?
                  Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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                  • #10
                    MrsK:
                    http://www.hopecenter4autism.com/

                    It's on the front page.





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                    • #11
                      We saw Paul Offitt give an informative talk in OC 2 years ago, on vax. He had a long segment on why vax doesn't cause autism, and did a great job.

                      With people like him out there, I am wondering how centers like this can make that claim?



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                      Last edited by Thirteen; 08-15-2012, 08:31 PM.
                      Wife to Family Medicine attending, Mom to DS1 and DS2
                      Professional Relocation Specialist &
                      "The Official IMSN Enabler"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                        We saw Paul Offitt give an informative talk in OC 2 years ago, on vax. He had a while segment on why vax don't cause autism, and did a great job.

                        With people like him out there, I am wondering how centers like this can make that claim?

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                        I would have loved to hear him speak, I am very familiar with his work.
                        Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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                        • #13
                          Hmm, their website is not very informative. (No mention of the Jenny McCarthy diet theory either.) I asked DrK and he said that he never heard of autism described as "recoverable".
                          Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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                          • #14
                            Hmm...I'm going to hold judgment for now because it sounds very much like the treatment my now-9-year-old sister-in-law went through. She was diagnosed "on the spectrum" somewhere between 2 and 3. Or maybe closer to 4. I cant really remember at this point, but it was pretty young. She had little tolerance (or really none) for anyone outside her immediate family and eventually got to the point where she would even try and spend as much time away from her mom as possible. She spent HOURS in front of the computer. Basically had very few interpersonal skills and was retreating into herself. Was visibly uncomfortable around lots of people, especially strangers. Had little tolerance of unfamiliar places. Talked minimally, etc.

                            I don't know the details of the treatment, but it involved different therapists and eventually special ed at the local elementary school. I know my MIL started interacting with her ALL THE TIME, even if my SIL wanted her to go away. She made a lot of progress and a few years later was retested. She still has issues but they were not enough to put her "on the spectrum" anymore. She eventually was able to transfer out of the public school special ed program and into a normal kindergarten class at the Catholic school her siblings go to. You can tell she is still different and probably always will be. She still has a low tolerance for unfamiliar situations, food, locations, etc. but it is getting better. And you can tell she still likes to be alone, but she enjoys playing and being around others now too. It has taken her a long time to get used to N...she was very very cautious around her and has warmed up each time we visit.

                            So is that recovery? I don't know. Her issues are better but I wouldn't say 100% cured. When all of this was first going on, she wouldn't even acknowledge my presence when I visited. Just a year of the therapy made a huge difference. I wont claim to be an expert, but I think the major problem is "Autism" is such a catch-all term and the spectrum is WIDE. In her case, I would say "early intervention" helped, though.
                            Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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                            • #15
                              Early intervention definitely helps! But, it's generally been accepted in med circles that there is no cure or recovery, just improvement.
                              -Deb
                              Wife to EP, just trying to keep up with my FOUR busy kids!

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