Now that the election is over:

[HouseofWool]

I'm not saying that I have a problem, just that I can see how it might be perceived as double dipping.

[Deebs]

My prob is in that state we gave people EXTRA money to retire early & get burned out teachers out of the schools. It wasn't meant to benefit those who felt burnt out, but rather to push ineffective teachers out of the system. They "retired" But stayed in the system to make more, so the very teachers they were working to force into retirement are double dipping. The state rules do allow them to do it, but they are gaming the system (it's also literally breaking the system, but that's another story). Just an example of people trying to work less for a greater financial benefit. There are other teachers that stayed legitimately in the system and will be paid at a lower pension rate. I just think its a bit more honest. I worked with people in DuPage County at their WIC program who would make sure they only worked enough so they would still qualify for welfare. Many, many people.

[weeniegeniewife]

Oregon is doing a big exposé on double dipping, and there are groups that are trying to make laws against it. It is a very, very big problem and costs the taxpayers millions each year. Oregonians are working hard to reform the current laws and system.

[SuzySunshine]

If that is the reason they retired then yes, I totally agree that us wrong.

[Sheherezade]

We've had some "double dipping" debates here over the schools. They have been in the practice of hiring back retiring teachers for a first year's teacher salary. The teacher would collect their pension and also get the starting salary but continue in their current position. The school board saw it as a district savings because they got teachers with high experience/education for less money instead of filling the slot with a new, less experienced teacher for the same cost. The counter-argument was that the younger teachers NEVER got a break getting hired around here because the older staff could pull this maneuver.

It's one of those situations where I really do see both sides. Sadly, people get heated over this when there are really no bad intentions here at all. This last year, the school board decided NOT to do a retire-rehire for anyone anymore. They ended up "losing" two popular staff members to retirement who told everyone they would have stayed on as a rehire but the district wouldn't have them. So...parents were pissed again.

Sometimes, you can't win for losing. Basically, everyone is trying to do the right thing but everyone suspects something nefarious and that causes changes.