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~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
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Did anyone change after the debates?
LuanneLuanne
wife, mother, nurse practitioner
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Nope, I watched the debates purely for entertainment purposes.Awake is the new sleep!
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I watched the first debate but skipped the second two I couldn't stand them being so negative the entire time. The first candidate that runs someday with NO negative ads about his opponent is getting my vote forever!Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.Comment
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Political races involve candidates "challenging" one another. Each candidate wants you to choose him/her as the best one. This necessitates the candidates publicly calling attention to any contrasts between themselves and their opposition. In order to foster conclusions among voters that the individual candidate will come out on top in a contrast between candidates there is the necessity of, at the very least, implying a negativity of the other candidate in order to draw a more positive contrast for a particular candidate. More often than not, this also involves more than an implication. Rather, candidates will often draw lines verbally contrasting themselves with their opponents. This very reality means that all political races in an open democratic republic will involve a degree of negativity from the candidates regarding their opponents. We see this throughout U.S. history regarding presidential races in particular.Originally posted by Cheri
Bottom line: A good politician in a democracy will always point out how he/she is better than the other candidate, thus necessitating the positive/negative comparison.
JenniferWho uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glassComment
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BS
They have gone over the top this time.Luanne
wife, mother, nurse practitioner
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." (John, Viscount Morely, On Compromise, 1874)Comment
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I agree they need to point out the differences but since neither say HOW they're going to fix it its kind of pointless!Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.Comment
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I agree..and it's great to see an almost even split here on the boards...It's also great to hear some of the views from the other side....it's definitley given me some things to think about.
kris~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
~A Rolling Stone Gathers No MossComment
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Cheri, I agree - a good candidate would have plans for various issues. I do think we 've been moving away from "plans" in the last election and more towards simply saying the other candidate is a bad choice (along with various epithets).
Jennifer
Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glassComment
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As I re-examine this thread I came to a realization that when we are discussing things on this site it is very important to keep in mind that the majority viewpoint expressed on this site is not necessarily reflective of the majority viewpoint held in the nation (this poll was a wonderful example of that fact). For that reason, I do find it informative to come here and see the minority-held viewpoints so vocally expressed. I think it also helps me to further understand and bolster my own views (which are often shared by mainstream Americans) by allowing me to have to provide reason and logic to support my convictions. It's an odd thank you, I know, but it is a thank you I want to share.
JenniferWho uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glassComment
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The election wasn't a landslide, people....it was 51/49
~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
~A Rolling Stone Gathers No MossComment
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No, it wasn't a "landslide" in the sense that Bush won every person's vote.
However there are several significant factors to this election:
1) The conventional wisdom was that if the non-voting, voter-eligible public were to be motivated to vote in a presidential race in large numbers, they would tend to vote for the Democrats. What actually occured is the opposite. If it is actually Republicans that this large group of Americans tend to support but are too lazy to actually make it to the polls to vote for, then this says worlds about the actual support for the Republican party among the American population.
2) This was the first presidential election in a very, very long time where the winner received a majority of the votes of the entire American population. Even Clinton couldn't do that - and he was considered a "wildly popular" presidential candidate! That 51 - 52% is a VERY significant number in history.
3) The very clear and decisive victories of the marriage protection measures on 11 states (including Oregon - a heavily pro-democrat state) demonstrated that a vast majority of Americans agree with the Republican party on key issues.
Jennifer
Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glassComment
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1. Bush was able to effectively energize the evangelical base....There were even catholic priests out here basically telling their sheep they would rot in hell if they voted for Kerry.Originally posted by RapunzelNo, it wasn't a "landslide" in the sense that Bush won every person's vote.
However there are several significant factors to this election:
1) The conventional wisdom was that if the non-voting, voter-eligible public were to be motivated to vote in a presidential race in large numbers, they would tend to vote for the Democrats. What actually occured is the opposite. If it is actually Republicans that this large group of Americans tend to support but are too lazy to actually make it to the polls to vote for, then this says worlds about the actual support for the Republican party among the American population.
2) This was the first presidential election in a very, very long time where the winner received a majority of the votes of the entire American population. Even Clinton couldn't do that - and he was considered a "wildly popular" presidential candidate! That 51 - 52% is a VERY significant number in history.
3) The very clear and decisive victories of the marriage protection measures on 11 states (including Oregon - a heavily pro-democrat state) demonstrated that a vast majority of Americans agree with the Republican party on key issues.
Jennifer
This was clearly an election decided by a couple of major issues: abortion,stem cells and gay marriage. I think there were some bigger fish to fry out there...like going to war against a country that did not pose a threat to us and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians in the process...but I'm on the losing team.
So I concede for today...and retreat to my lonely little grieving thread. The exit polls are showing that the celebration thread is more popular right now.
~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
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Originally posted by PrincessFionaThe exit polls are showing that the celebration thread is more popular right now.
OK, that was just funny!
Jennifer
Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glassComment
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