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  • IMAX passes on showing science film in southern states

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    http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/ent ... etail.html

    IMAX recently passed on showing a movie in many southern states about Volcano's because some of the subject matter refers to evolution. They claim they do not want to offend believer's of creationism. Texas, Georgia and the Carolina's refuse to show the movie.

    What are your thoughts on IMAX's decision?

    What are your views on these states refusal to show the movie?

    Whether or not you believe in creationism or evolution do you believe these states have the right to deny the people the choice?

  • #2
    I voted "no...subject matter should be read by everyone".

    Whether you believe in evolution, creationism or a mixture of both you should be firm enough in your belief not to fear hearing about the other point of view. Failure to do so (in my eyes anyway) is a sign that one has doubts.

    Putting that aside though, there has been too much scientific evidence out there to discount it by refusing to discuss it or allow it to be talked about.

    kris
    ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
    ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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    • #3
      I voted, 'no...people should decide whether or not they want to see the movie'. While I can understand how the subject matter might be offensive to those who do believe in creationism, evolution is a valid and strongly-supported scientific theory that should not be censored. If people think they'll be offended by seeing the movie, then they just shouldn't go. I, personally, would be fascinated to see this movie and would be upset if I were denied access because a select few people complained loudly enough.
      ~Jane

      -Wife of urology attending.
      -SAHM to three great kiddos (2 boys, 1 girl!)

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      • #4
        Also, forgive my ignorance, but..what is IMAX?

        kris
        ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
        ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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        • #5
          I agree with everyone's posts thus far.

          IMAX is a high quality film production company. If you haven't seen one of their movies you should definately add it to your to do list. The quality is unparalleled and the subjects are diverse and interesting. I have seem The Living Sea and Africa:The Serengeti....both were amazing!
          I plan to see the one on Volcano's as well!

          Click here for more on IMAX:
          http://www.imax.com

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          • #6
            I voted for #4 for the same reasons included in the previous posts. If some people are offended by this movie, well.....they have the right not to see it. I love IMAX movies....they are just so beautiful to watch. But, since I live in the Carolinas, I guess I won't be seeing this one anytime soon....

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            • #7
              I voted #4, let people decide.

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              • #8
                I voted for 4, but I support 3 in part. I think all subject matter should be read by everyone interested in a topic but I am comfortable with the notion that stating evolution is scientific fact could offend those who consider it unproven. I personally favor evolution, but I am open to reading theories/studies on intelligent design. Dismissing theories stops the forward progress of knowledge. I am not offended by alternative theories to evolution; I may disagree or agree after considering them.
                Angie
                Gyn-Onc fellowship survivor - 10 years out of the training years; reluctant suburbanite
                Mom to DS (18) and DD (15) (and many many pets)

                "Where are we going - and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

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                • #9
                  I chose:

                  Yes, only because IMAX has the right to make their own business decisions.

                  If a company feels like they will have a loss if they put a product on a certain market then I think it is entirely within reason for that company to choose to forgo that product for that particular market. It's not the government censoring this or forcing a business decision - it's a simple matter of businesses go where the profit is.

                  Jennifer
                  Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
                  With fingernails that shine like justice
                  And a voice that is dark like tinted glass

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                  • #10
                    Now, since there is the tangental subject of evolution being considered "fact" or "theory" the fact is it is a theory (punning entirely intended ).

                    It is an intriguing theory to be sure, but it's one that is clung to religiously by too many. I think the theory of evolution explains some things - but certainly not everything. Quite frankly I think it is quite arrogant for anyone to claim we know anything for a "fact" in science. True science is ever-changing, ever-evolving if you will (I'm punny today!) and there seems to be the willingness in the scientific world to "excommunicate" anyone who questions the theory of evolution.

                    Jennifer
                    Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
                    With fingernails that shine like justice
                    And a voice that is dark like tinted glass

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rapunzel
                      I chose:

                      It's not the government censoring this or forcing a business decision - it's a simple matter of businesses go where the profit is.

                      Jennifer
                      Actually yes it is. Texas, Georgia and the Carolina's have banned the movie from being shown in these states. If this isn't government censorship then I don't know what is.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rapunzel

                        I think the theory of evolution explains some things - but certainly not everything. Quite frankly I think it is quite arrogant for anyone to claim we know anything for a "fact" in science. True science is ever-changing, ever-evolving if you will (I'm punny today!) and there seems to be the willingness in the scientific world to "excommunicate" anyone who questions the theory of evolution.
                        Jennifer
                        I couldn't disagree with you more. Evolution is scientific fact.
                        Just because science doesn't have an answer for everything doesn't discount the overwhelming evidence that evolution is occuring all around us and within us.

                        Some scientists tend to 'excommunicate anyone who questions the theory' because when you study science, you see it in the lab and all around you it seems baffling that anyone could not understand the very basic concepts of evolution.

                        Whether or not humans evolved from Apes could be considered a theory. Even though IMHO the evidence cleary suggests so, creationists simply refuse to see it. This is the confusing mistake that creationists make in claiming they don't "believe in evolution".

                        If you don't believe in evolution then you don't believe that bacteria mutate (thus evolve) into antibiotic-resistant forms. And you wouldn't believe in blue eye color either because that is a genetic mutation and thus evolution.

                        Evolution is a process of mutation that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations. That's it, nothing more.

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                        • #13
                          We're all right...

                          http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/lenski.html

                          Evolution: Fact and Theory
                          By Richard E. Lenski

                          Evolution theory explains how organisms have changed over time.
                          Scientific understanding requires both facts and theories that can explain those facts in a coherent manner. Evolution, in this context, is both a fact and a theory. It is an incontrovertible fact that organisms have changed, or evolved, during the history of life on Earth. And biologists have identified and investigated mechanisms that can explain the major patterns of change.


                          The field of evolutionary biology seeks to provide explanations for four conspicuous patterns that are manifest in nature. The first three concern living species, whereas the fourth relates to fossils.


                          Genes are linked to how organisms look and behave. Genetic variation. There is tremendous genetic diversity within almost all species, including humans. No two individuals have the same DNA sequence, with the exception of identical twins or clones. This genetic variation contributes to phenotypic variation - that is, diversity in the outward appearance and behavior of individuals of the same species.

                          Organisms must adapt to their environment to survive. Adaptation. Living organisms have morphological, biochemical, and behavioral features that make them well adapted for life in the environments in which they are usually found. For example, consider the hollow bones and feathers of birds that enable them to fly, or the cryptic coloration that allows many organisms to hide from their predators. These features may give the superficial appearance that organisms were designed by a creator (or engineer) to live in a particular environment. Evolutionary biology has demonstrated that adaptations arise through selection acting on genetic variation.

                          Species evolved along different paths from a common ancestor. Divergence. All living species differ from one another. In some cases, these differences are subtle, while in other cases the differences are dramatic. Carl Linnaeus (1707-1778) proposed a classification that is still used today with slight changes. In the modern scheme, similar species are grouped into genera, similar genera into families, and so on. This hierarchical pattern of relationship produces a tree-like pattern, which implies a process of splitting and divergence from a common ancestor.

                          Fossils provide evidence of evolutionary changes. Fossil species. Fossils are the mineralized remnants or impressions of once-living organisms. Many fossils, such as trilobites and dinosaurs, belong to groups that no longer exist on the face of the Earth. Conversely, many modern species appear similar to other fossils, yet fossils of the modern species are absent from rocks of corresponding ages. The age of the Earth is estimated to be about 4.5 billion years, with the earliest bacterial fossils about 3.5 billion years old. Fossils from around 550 million years ago (the Cambrian period) show a diverse assemblage of multicellular animals.


                          The origin of life remains an unsolved mystery.
                          Evolutionary biology provides a scientific framework for understanding the changes that have occurred since the first life forms arose on Earth several billion years ago. Biochemists, geologists, and physicists seek natural explanations for the origin of life on Earth. While progress has been made in this area, the origin of life remains an interesting, but unanswered, question.

                          When species evolve, their genetic makeup changes.


                          Mechanisms of Evolution

                          Biological evolution results from changes over time in the genetic constitution of species. Genetic changes often, but not always, produce noticeable changes in the appearance or behavior of organisms. Evolution requires both the production of variation and the spread of some variants that replace others.


                          Offspring with genetic mutations are different from their parents.
                          Genetic variation arises through two processes, mutation and recombination. Mutation occurs when DNA is imperfectly copied during replication, leading to a difference between a parent's gene and that of its offspring. Some mutations affect only one bit in the DNA; others produce rearrangements of large blocks of DNA.

                          Genes can be shuffled between organisms.
                          Recombination occurs when genes from two parents are shuffled to produce an offspring, as happens regularly in sexual reproduction. Usually the two parents belong to the same species, but sometimes (especially in bacteria) genes move between more distantly related organisms.

                          Not all mutations become fixed in a population.
                          The fate of any particular genetic variant depends on two processes, drift and selection. Drift refers to random fluctuations in gene frequency, and its effects are usually seen at the level of DNA. Ten flips of a coin do not always produce exactly five heads and five tails; drift refers to the same statistical issue applied to the transmission of genetic variants across generations.

                          Natural selection guarantees that the fittest will pass on their genes. The principle of natural selection was discovered by Charles Darwin (1809-1882), and it is the process by which organisms become adapted to their environments. Selection occurs when some individual organisms have genes that encode physical or behavioral features that allow them to better harvest resources, avoid predators, and such relative to other individuals that do not carry the same genes. The individuals that have these useful features will tend to leave more offspring than other individuals, so the responsible genes will become more common over time, leading the population as a whole to become better adapted.

                          Distinct species diverge from one ancestor and can no longer interbreed. The process that many people find most confusing about evolution is speciation, which is not a separate mechanism at all, but rather a consequence of the preceding mechanisms played out in time and space. Speciation occurs when a population changes sufficiently over time that it becomes convenient to refer to the early and late forms by different names. Speciation also occurs when one population splits into two distinct forms that can no longer interbreed. Reproductive isolation does not generally happen in one generation; it may require many thousands of generations when, for example, one part of a population becomes geographically separated from the rest and adapts to a new environment. Given time, it is inevitable that two populations that live apart will diverge by mutation, drift, and selection until eventually their genes are no longer compatible for successful reproduction.

                          Evidence for Evolution, and its Significance in our Lives

                          It is impossible to review all the evidence for evolution in a short article such as this. However, the following offers a sample of the kinds of evidence that have been discovered and confirmed repeatedly by scientists. These examples also illustrate the importance of this evidence for science and society more generally.


                          Fossils are the most easily observed evidence for evolution. Evidence from fossils. Based on myriad similarities and differences between living species, evolutionary biology makes predictions about the features of ancestral forms. For example, numerous features indicate that birds are derived from reptilian ancestors. By contrast, these data reject the possibility that birds were derived from other groups, such as flying insects. Scientists have discovered fossil birds with feathers and legs like modern birds, but which also have teeth, clawed digits on their forelimbs, and a tailbone like their reptilian ancestors. Fossils are especially important evidence for evolution because, with little effort, each of us can use our eyes and minds to observe and interpret the dinosaur and other ancient fossils in public museums.

                          DNA profiles show evolutionary relationships among species.
                          Evidence from genetics. The genomes of all organisms contain overwhelming evidence for evolution. All living species share the same basic mechanism of heredity using DNA (or RNA in some viruses) to encode genes that are passed from parent to offspring, and which are transcribed and translated into proteins during each organism's life. Using DNA sequences, biologists quantify the genetic similarities and differences among species, in order to determine which species are more closely related to one another and which are more distantly related. In doing so, biologists use essentially the same evidence and logic used to determine paternity in lawsuits. The pattern of genetic relatedness between all species indicates a branching tree that implies divergence from a common ancestor. Within this tree of life, there are also occasional reticulations where two branches fuse, rather than separate. (For example, mitochondria are organelles found in the cells of plants and animals. Mitochondria have their own genes, which are more similar to genes in bacteria than to genes on the chromosomes in the cell nucleus. Thus, one of our distant ancestors arose from a symbiosis of two different cell types.) The genetic similarity between species, which exists by virtue of evolution from the same ancestral form, is an essential fact that underlies biomedical research. This similarity allows us to begin to understand the effects of our own genes by conducting research on genes from other species. For example, genes that control the process of DNA repair in bacteria, flies, and mice have been discovered to influence certain cancers in humans. These findings also suggest strategies for intervention that can be explored in other species before testing on humans.

                          Evolution is evident today in how bacteria evolve to resist antibiotics. Evolution in action. Evolutionary change continues to this day, and it will proceed so long as life itself exists. In recent years, many bacterial pathogens have evolved resistance to antibiotics used to cure infections, thereby requiring the development of new and more costly treatments. In some frightening cases, bacteria have evolved resistance to every available antibiotic, so there is no longer any effective treatment. In the case of HIV, which causes AIDS, significant viral evolution occurs within the course of infection of a single patient, and this rapid evolution enables the virus to evade the immune system. Many agricultural pests have evolved resistance to chemicals that farmers have used for only a few decades. As we work to control diseases and pests, the responsible organisms have been evolving to escape our controls. Moreover, scientists can perform experiments to study evolution in real time, just as experiments are used to observe dynamic processes in physics, chemistry, and other branches of biology. To study evolution in action, scientists use organisms like bacteria and fruitflies that reproduce quickly, so they can see changes that require many generations.


                          Conclusions: Current evidence and historical data show that evolution is both a fact and a theory.





                          Conclusions

                          Evolutionary biology is a strong and vigorous field of science. A theoretical framework that encompasses several basic mechanisms is consistent with the patterns seen in nature; and there is abundant evidence demonstrating the action of these mechanisms as well as their contributions to nature. Hence, evolution is both a theory and a set of established facts that the theory explains.
                          Like every other science, there is scientific debate about some aspects of evolution, but none of these debates appear likely to shake the foundations of this field. There exists no other scientific explanation that can account for all the patterns in nature, only non-scientific explanations that require a miraculous force, like a creator. Such super-natural explanations lie outside of science, which can neither prove nor disprove miracles. Science provides us with a compelling account and explanation of the changing life on Earth. It should also remind us of our good fortune to have come into being and our great responsibility to ensure the continuity of life.
                          ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
                          ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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                          • #14
                            Can I vote for three things?

                            First, I think that showing the film is a decision to be made by IMAX. They have to make money off the thing and why show it in places they might stand to lose a lot? This falls along the lines of people should be able to see and watch what they want to.
                            Second, I also agree that an airing of different opinions is reasonable. My goodness, it's a movie about volcanoes -- not a 45 minute IMAX about evolution. Or creationism.

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                            • #15
                              good article Kris, thank you!
                              I just have to tell you that I CRACK UP every single time I see your ticker! I find it hysterical.....I apologize for laughing because I know what a PITA (pain in the a--) she can be during her visits. I just love your devilish sense of humor...and I guess I can totally relate since my MIL does some of the same things to me.

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