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    It's no secret that I, and several other members here, are happy readers of the White Coat Investor blog. Well, now Jim Dahle, MD, has consolidated most of his information about physician finances into one convenient book, aptly named White Coat Investor.

    I really, truly, very highly recommend this book! Pretty much to every single medspouse on here. It's an especially good value in the Kindle format, but if you're a hard-copy kind of person, go ahead and splurge -- this book will definitely pay for itself.

    The foreward is a very pragmatic nugget of wisdom from another physician turned (repeatedly published and well regarded) finance professional, William Bernstein.

    WCI has done a really pretty decent job as a first-time author, breaking down the information he wants to share into a fairly logical format. He takes a few chapters to motivate the need for physicians (and their families) to pay attention to finances: the increasingly precarious position of increasing debt and decreasing compensation that new docs are facing; the allure of achieving a net worth of $1M by age 40 (and stories from several families who did just that); some of the pitfalls of the medical lifestyle that lead doctors to be just the kinds of "underaccumulators of wealth" that the authors of Millionaire Next Door warn against.

    Then he breaks into individual chapters for different stages of training. Med students, take note! Residents, check it out! Attending spouses too! The advice is especially pertinent at the beginning of each stage as you set the foundation for the next few years of financial life, but you can also glean something from his suggestions at any time after that training stage has started. (Let me reiterate: If you are changing stages -- just Matched, just got a new job -- then these chapters are an absolute *must read!*)

    After this he discusses some nuts and bolts of retirement planning, investing your savings, hiring a planner, minimizing taxes, etc. These chapters are pretty lightly sketched out, and probably should just be taken as a jumping-off point to conduct further investigations. Fortunately he provides a nice reading list at the end of every chapter, including references to his own blog but also a handful of useful books.

    I am really glad this book exists. It's the best physician-specific reference I've seen, hands-down. One thing I must note is that WCI seems to have a little bit of trouble with perspective-taking. He made mostly good choices, graduated without debt and makes somewhere in the $250 to $350k range in a specialty where you basically punch in and punch out without worrying about drumming up a client base or taking call. This doesn't describe as many medical families as he seems to think. But if your family has more debt, more income, less income, a more all-consumed dawkter, financial hardship to overcome -- I still think there is a lot of value in this book.

    Let me know if I can answer anything specific, I'm not very practiced at writing reviews like this.
    Alison

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    Thank you for the suggestion! I'll be getting it tonight.


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    • #3
      Great. We hired a financial advisor 18 months ago but I still feel ike we tread water. He has helped us cover our assests, but I still feel frustrated (including the cost of those services now). I'm downloading it onto my kindle.

      You always start great threads on finances. I'm invested ( ) in the topic, but when I start getting into the nitty gritty my eyes start to glaze over.
      -Ladybug

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ladybug View Post
        Great. We hired a financial advisor 18 months ago but I still feel ike we tread water. He has helped us cover our assests, but I still feel frustrated (including the cost of those services now). I'm downloading it onto my kindle.

        You always start great threads on finances. I'm invested ( ) in the topic, but when I start getting into the nitty gritty my eyes start to glaze over.
        I was surprised but gratified, honestly, that both the foreword by Bernstein and Chapter 10 emphasize that hiring somebody is often the right move for a physician family. After all, finance is a pretty complicated field that not just anybody can or wants to pick up in their spare time. But you've got to be sure that, in WCI's words, the cost of the service is "adding value". Plus the more you know and the more informed your opinions about how you want your money managed, the less you'll be taken for a ride by someone whose priorities don't match yours.
        Alison

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        • #5
          Definitely something to put on the list
          Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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          • #6
            Must read financial book

            So I'm almost done with this, but I enjoyed it. I really want DH to read it--I end up dealing with most of the finances, but when he gets interested in something it can be a big push for us to make some progress. I did make him read the line about staying married

            I will say, it makes me feel a little overwhelmed, but I have a tendency to feel like I have to do everything at once. Right now I'm focusing on buying liability and life insurance. I probably need to look at the 401k I have for my job as well. I contribute the matching amount but haven't really looked into what it is invested in...or what fees I'm paying. I don't necessarily see is managing everything. I don't think DH will do it and I'm not sure I want to.

            It has inspired me to look a little more into paying down loans more while I'm working and reinforces my fear of growing into our combined salary.
            Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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            • #7
              I've read most of it too. I really like it, especially considering it's the first finance book I've read. Very straightforward.


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              • #8
                Uhhh just started it. Second chapter first anecdote. Ophthalmologist who says he saved 40% if income while in residency???

                How is this possible unless 1) he lived in a VERY low COL area 2) wife made as much or more than him 3) no kids 4) no debt.

                Holy hell I thought we were doing well with saving but there is nooo way we can save more than we already are (which is about 10% of my income which is a fraction of husbands).

                That just makes me angry.

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                  Originally posted by MAPPLEBUM View Post
                  Uhhh just started it. Second chapter first anecdote. Ophthalmologist who says he saved 40% if income while in residency???

                  How is this possible unless 1) he lived in a VERY low COL area 2) wife made as much or more than him 3) no kids 4) no debt.

                  Holy hell I thought we were doing well with saving but there is nooo way we can save more than we already are (which is about 10% of my income which is a fraction of husbands).

                  That just makes me angry.

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                  Well, he says he maxed out a personal and a spousal IRA during residency. Which does imply about 25% of income being saved, since spousal means the spouse doesn't have any income, but he didn't say he did that annually. He says he's saving 40% of a post-training ophtho salary *now*.

                  Honestly the anecdotes in support of "millionaire by 40" are a bit much. They mostly represent seriously stacked decks (family support, no loans, happening to hit peak investing right at the depth of the 1999 market lows, and/or post-training income higher than average) But the point of that section isn't necessarily "you should be doing this". But more to inspire you that if you *choose* to pare back, you can reach impressive goals -- every little bit counts, even during residency, especially with the power of compounding. It's like the stories in Millionaire Next Door about dry cleaning owner/operators reaching multi-million dollar net worth by extreme frugality. It's not for everyone, but it's not *impossible* either.
                  Alison

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                  • #10
                    He does mention that he basically lived by the same %'s in residency. This is just the first book whose anecdotes hit close to home. It was easy to read the "Millionaire Next Door" anecdotes because they were so theoretical! You're right of course but it hit close to him ("oo! Ophtho let's see !")

                    And i suppose i was exaggerating. We Could save more if we lived in the suburbs with a 1 bedroom apartment and never went out. And if I didn't like my top shelf liquor and if he quit buying those damn bowties!

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                    • #11
                      I'm reading it... I noticed the stacked deck effect too. I also noticed that he says his wife was a teacher for a year then quit-- but he was posting here as a med spouse? Interesting...

                      Anyway it's a good starting place. Not too scary as far as financial planning books go.
                      Peggy

                      Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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                      • #12
                        Naw, I think he was posting here because he got some site traffic from us, followed it back to find this site, wanted to be able to chime in, and got Kris's permission to post only in the Financial section.

                        I'm glad you agree that it's a nice broad overview and not scarily technical!
                        Last edited by spotty_dog; 06-06-2014, 12:24 AM.
                        Alison

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                        • #13
                          I started reading some to hubby this night and his response was "this is a good book!" No shit. Now let me explain to you what an intermediate bond fund is.

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