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Through a Rapist's Eyes

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  • Through a Rapist's Eyes

    I'm sure you all have seen this before, but yet another friendly safety reminder from Stella:

    Through a Rapist's Eyes (No Joke)

    This is important information for females of ALL ages .

    When this was sent to me, I was told to forward it to my lady friends I forwarded it to most everyone in my address book. My men friends have female friends and this information is too important to miss someone. Please pass it along.

    A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

    1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

    2) The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly . Many of them carry scissors around specifically to cut clothing.

    3) They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

    4) Men are most likely to attack & rape in the early morning, between 5:00a.m. and 8:30a.m.

    5) The number one: place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots. Number two: is office parking lots/garages. Number three: is public restrooms.

    6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to another location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.



    7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

    8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time consuming.

    9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.

    Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

    10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: "I can't believe it is so cold out here", "we're in for a bad winter." Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up; you lose appeal as a target.

    11) If someone is coming toward you , hold out your hands in front of you and yell STOP or STAY BACK ! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back.



    Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

    12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yell I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

    13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm (between the elbow and armpit) OR in the upper inner thigh VERY VERY HARD. One woman in a class t his guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yoursel f in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts.

    14) After the initial hit, always G O for the GROIN. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he's out of there.



    15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.< /B>

    16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts!!!

    You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

    1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

    2.Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

    3.If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out th e hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

    4.Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.) DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

    a. If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF, repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF! Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.

    5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

    A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.

    B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

    C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.

    IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

    6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)

    7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN, preferably in a zig -zag pattern!



    8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP! It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

    9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door."

    The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it , but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby's cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night.



    Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby ----This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

    I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. I was going to send this to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it onto them, as well.

  • #2
    Wow! Now I'm scared.
    Cristina
    IM PGY-2

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    • #3


      Thinking about things like this always gives me a sick feeling in my stomach.

      However, it is good to keep all of these tips in mind. I had already heard that keys were a useless weapon. Gunning the engine and wrecking the car if carjacked is a new one though!

      Than you, Stellava.
      Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
      With fingernails that shine like justice
      And a voice that is dark like tinted glass

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      • #4
        Thanks Stella, I'm sending it around now.

        Jodi

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        • #5
          When we were in Boston, a woman was killed by a worker at a Burger King rest stop on the highway. He cornered her in the public restroom. It was a well lit, clean, "official" rest stop. My most important safety rule is to avoid deserted places. If I'm the only one in a store or area, I get nervous ---and I get out of Dodge fast.

          Thanks for the tips. I'd heard the car wreck one as good advice to kids as well. A child abduction guy lectured that kids that do end up in a car with an abductor can try jumping on their lap and grabbing the steering wheel when they are driving in a crowded area. Far better to wreck the car and suffer injury than end up far away from crowds under the bad guy's control.
          Angie
          Gyn-Onc fellowship survivor - 10 years out of the training years; reluctant suburbanite
          Mom to DS (18) and DD (15) (and many many pets)

          "Where are we going - and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

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          • #6
            I don't know about using an elevator either unless there are MANY people around. I was in 9th grade and I was at a resort with my mom and my best friend. I went up to our room with my best friend and this guy got on the elevator at the last minute. He started asking us if we wanted to see his room and take some pictures. Creepy stuff. ::
            Cristina
            IM PGY-2

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MissCrabette
              I don't know about using an elevator either unless there are MANY people around. I was in 9th grade and I was at a resort with my mom and my best friend. I went up to our room with my best friend and this guy got on the elevator at the last minute. He started asking us if we wanted to see his room and take some pictures. Creepy stuff. ::
              Elevators are my super scary place. Once when I was maybe 10 years old, we were staying with some family friends at their beach condo for the weekend. I was downstairs with the kids and teens at the pool (there were several older teens watching us young kids). I got tired after a while, so I jumped on the elevator to join the parents upstairs (small complex- 3 floors and maybe 15 condos). As I got on the elevator, a man stood in the doorway and exposed himself to me. He reached towards me, and when I jumped to the side to avoid him, my leg pushed the alarm and he ran off. Scarriest moment of my life, and I know I dodged a bullet in a big way that day. They never could find that guy :|
              Rebecca, wife to handsome gyn-onc, and mom 4 awesome kiddos: 8,6,4, and 2.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Beccaroo
                Originally posted by MissCrabette
                I don't know about using an elevator either unless there are MANY people around. I was in 9th grade and I was at a resort with my mom and my best friend. I went up to our room with my best friend and this guy got on the elevator at the last minute. He started asking us if we wanted to see his room and take some pictures. Creepy stuff. ::
                Elevators are my super scary place.
                Me too. We had a near miss in an elevator in Chicago. It actually started on the street in front of our hotel, I sort of noticed a guy following us (it was nighttime) but didn't really think anything of it until he followed us right into the lobby of our hotel and into the empty elevator with us. I got this really weird vibe and at the last minute before the doors closed, I told DH that I wanted to go to the front desk and get a newspaper. We got out of the elevator and the guy followed us out. We went to the front desk and got the paper, and the guy walked right back out of the hotel. Super creepy. I was so freaked out and scared that night that I insisted that we push some furniture up against the door before going to sleep. :! I still occasionally think about what might have happened that night had I not trusted my gut.
                ~Jane

                -Wife of urology attending.
                -SAHM to three great kiddos (2 boys, 1 girl!)

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                • #9
                  Well Merry Christmas to us, huh? It is good to pass the word about these things at least so that you are more aware when you are out and about, especially alone.

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                  • #10
                    HOLY COW!

                    I am now going to have nightmares about elevators....

                    Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
                    With fingernails that shine like justice
                    And a voice that is dark like tinted glass

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