Surgical Residency Study

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Family medicine, pediatrics, internal medicine, I can envision a near future in which those fields become all but devoid of MDs and are taken over by NPs/FNPs as everyone flocks to subspecialties.

Dh graduated on Sunday. His class of 150 had 26 radiologists, 10 derms, 20 anesthesiologists, 6 ophthalmologists, 5 urologists (including DH) - these specialties are all important but that is not a good ratio when peds/FP/IM are so needed in our country. I don't think it's a good sign that 17% of his class was in rads - we won't have anyone to treat the problem that the radiologist identifies.

[houseelf]

I'm not touching this thread with a ten foot pole except to ask T & S, how many surgeons out of the class of 150?

[poky]

I'm not touching this thread with a ten foot pole except to ask T & S, how many surgeons out of the class of 150?

If she's counting the clinic students, it's actually out of 186, and if she's counting MD/PhD students who graduated this year, it's 196. Here's the breakdown: http://casemed.case.edu/admissions/i...tch%20List.pdf

(there were a few "deferred residency" people, so those numbers probably don't total 196)

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

If she's counting the clinic students, it's actually out of 186, and if she's counting MD/PhD students who graduated this year, it's 196. Here's the breakdown: http://casemed.case.edu/admissions/i...tch%20List.pdf

(there were a few "deferred residency" people, so those numbers probably don't total 196)

So my numbers were a bit off (sorry! - Match Day was only 8 weeks post-partum).

For those who don't want to look at the link, it was 4 in FM, 34 in IM (most of whom will go on to fellowships), 4 in Med-Peds, and 21 in pediatrics (again, many who will go on to fellowship). That means that only 1/3 of the class was in IM/Peds/FM and that's if NO ONE does a fellowship which obviously won't be the case.

[poky]

So my numbers were a bit off (sorry! - Match Day was only 8 weeks post-partum).

Oh, absolutely no worries; I just wanted to clarify. 150 is just about right if you count the university program only (with no md/phds), but I knew the numbers by specialty all included everyone.

[houseelf]

There is a serious G/S shortage looming and this chart is a good representation of what is to come. Out of the ten from that class, statistics tell us that 1 or 2 will change specialties and a few will go on for further training to become surgical subspecialists. Thus out of that class of 186, maybe 5 or 6 general surgeons will be trained. Meanwhile, the entire population is aging.

[ides]

I can personally tell you why so few stay in general surgery. It's the lowest on the totum pole surgery wise, pays the least, has patients that are really really sick & trying to die on you constantly & the culture is viscious & psychotic.

[L.Jane]

I can personally tell you why so few stay in general surgery. It's the lowest on the totum pole surgery wise, pays the least, has patients that are really really sick & trying to die on you constantly & the culture is viscious & psychotic.

and yet my doofus DH loves it and has no idea if he is going to specialize because he just "loves doing everything"

[ides]

How far along in residency is he? That's great your Dh likes the types of surgery in general. Dh couldn't stand operating on squishy bowels, & constantly dealing with peoples asses. Lol!

[L.Jane]

4 years down, 2 to go. We start hell, I mean, senior year June 18th.

[hanginginthere]

I think part of the issue with surgery is the work load is too large- there are not enough residents to handle it all so they wind up working crazy hours-it's not like they get paid much so um, would it be so hard to hire more even if it meant an extra year of training....sigh...We are now in senior years and on home call- I liked on call better, at least then I knew what nights he would be gone now it's a crap shoot and I cannot tell our toddler when or if her daddy is coming home...argh!!!! sorry end of my whining vent...