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  • #31
    I could not figure out for the LIFE of me how this spiraled downward like it did...how did this become a conversation of SAHM v. SAHW? Her post mentioned nothing about being a SAHM. Her precise question was: "what's not to like about staying at home?" and then she solicited "How can a person be bored at home, because you can read, explore your own interests, take adult ed classes, do research online, etc. I'd love to hear thoughts on this." This had nothing to do with kids or being a SAHM. I could not figure out: where did the jump to being a SAHM come from? Then I re-read the thread title: "SAHM v. SAHW." Ah, I see. There is a complete disconnect with between the title and the content of the original post. Maybe the better title would have been "WOHW (work outside the home wife) v. SAHW."

    To answer the original question: The only thing not to like about being the type of SAHW you've described is that your life would be all about you. All the time. Every day. Your interests, your needs, your comfort. It sounds fun in the short term, but unchallenging and a little boring in the long term. It sounds more like you want to be a FOOMW (Focused Only on Me Wife)--and, by the way, who doesn't kind of dream of this every so often?! However, I know quite a few SAHWs--and in reality, very few of their lives are centered around their own indulgences. Many are SAHWs for a purpose: to take care of elderly parents, or they have husbands with jobs that essentially need a full-time wife to accompany/support him in professional duties, or they are committed to volunteering in their communities. But being a SAHW for the sole purpose of indulging yourself sounds FANTASTIC...for about a month...then it just sounds dull in its self-centeredness. But maybe it's just me and I have ridiculously low self-esteem...but I could not imagine that I am interesting enough to spend all my time focusing on.

    However, on the issue that your title seems to want developed: the difference between being a SAHW and being a SAHM...the problem is, you've set up an invalid, incongruent comparison. The SAHW lifestyle you've described in your thread is a life centered all around YOU. And your needs. And your sense of self-fullfillment. So, in that sense, there is no valid comparison to being a SAHM. SAHMs focus on their children. They have no time to be concerned about being "bored" (under-stimulated at times, I am sure--there are Saturdays where I am BEGGING to have a multi-syllabic conversation...I can't imagine going the entire day without having an adult conversation). SAHMs have little time for self-development. That is just not "where they are" in their lives. They are about selflessness and sacrifice.

    However, if you are envisioning a SAHW lifestyle that involves spending your time serving others (like my friend who is a SAHW because her husband is a big-time department chairman and needs her available AND her mother, with dementia, needs her attention), then I would say that you can get a more accurate comparison with being a SAHM. If you plan to spend your life as a SAHW caring for other people--through meeting family obligations, volunteer work, etc.--then I would say that there is LOTS not to like about being a SAHW...just like there is a lot not to like about being a SAHM! It is hard, unpaid work for which you get little societal reward. It is about being bigger than yourself, and your needs, and your wants--every, single day. Sometimes, it is EASIER to WOTH than to be that kind of SAHW or SAHM.
    Last edited by GrayMatterWife; 09-24-2010, 09:07 PM.

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    • #32
      Abigail-, you're right- I'd probably say that I'd do all of these fabulous things- take a class , go to the gym, become a docent at the museum but I'm 90% sure that I'd be sitting in my jammies surfing iMSN all day. I don't like to clean now, I'm pretty sure I'd avoid the dust bunnies then, too.

      But it's a great concept. (communism was too, until the whole human behavior thing reared it's ugly head)

      J.

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      • #33
        Abigail, this thread split off from the Baby Blues thread. The SAHW question was raised (unfortunately) in the context of a discussion regarding PPD in a SAHM.
        Wife and #1 Fan of Attending Adult & Geriatric Psychiatrist.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Pollyanna View Post
          I can see how people manage to work when they have little ones but for the life of me I am amazed at people who manage to work when they have school age children.
          Those chicks are just completely certifiable. I know this one who wore a black and a navy shoe to court this week, because she got dressed in the dark, because wanted a few precious moments of solitude in which to get dressed, before her three kids simultaneously woke up and started demanding breakfast...

          She's a basket case. One day, her husband is going to come home and find her curled up on the floor, with a vacant, detached look in her eyes, whispering to herself, "Where are my bonbons? Where are my bonbons? Where are my bonbons?..."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MrsK View Post
            Abigail, this thread split off from the Baby Blues thread. The SAHW question was raised (unfortunately) in the context of a discussion regarding PPD in a SAHM.
            Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it makes sense then. Uh, just regard my ignorance and confusion, please. That explains several of the remarks re: Julie that I wasn't following. My apologies.

            Honestly, I suffered bad post-partum depression with my first child. It is very painful to think about and I avoided that thread, completely selfishly. I don't know what all was posted there, but I can relate to the SERIOUS baby blues. So much so that I just couldn't bring myself to go there.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MrsK View Post
              Abigail, this thread split off from the Baby Blues thread. The SAHW question was raised (unfortunately) in the context of a discussion regarding PPD in a SAHM.
              Ah, this makes more sense to me now. I was only reading it as a single thread on it's own and was having a hard time making the connection as well.

              At first I thought there was some unneccessary hostility about the question. Based on looking at this post as an individual thread, it seemed like SSU was considering the option of SAHW vs. WOHW. Wow, now I can see how her response completely is not only a hijack but completely inconsiderate of a struggling mom.

              I'm a little outraged at the comparison really because there isn't one. I couldn't see myself as a SAHW at all. Sure it might be fun in theory and even in reality for a short period of time but I ultimately would be bored and looking for something more fulfilling that I could consider mine. I too once had my identity directly tied into my career and the financial independence that brought me. Having kids changed a lot of that for me though, so without kids I know I would need something more than in my life.
              Charlene~Married to an attending Ophtho Mudphud and Mom to 2 daughters

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              • #37
                It did get confusing, but we really wanted to separate the two threads, as this one was really an inappropriate response to the seriousness of the original thread.
                Luanne
                wife, mother, nurse practitioner

                "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." (John, Viscount Morely, On Compromise, 1874)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by houseelf View Post
                  Chasing you in faded slippers, a house coat, and a nursing bra that I forgot to latch back....
                  OMG I love you so much.
                  -Ladybug

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