Reflux update (BF experts come in!)

[SoonerTexan]

Wait, so he is saying babies should not be fed sooner than 3 hours regardless of reflux? That sounds like a certain controversial parenting book and nothing to do with a treatment.

[Gwendolyn]

Wait, so he is saying babies should not be fed sooner than 3 hours regardless of reflux? That sounds like a certain controversial parenting book and nothing to do with a treatment.

Yes! Trust your instincts...ITA with at least giving a lactation consultant a call and a different ped. I would not do well with withholding food from an obviously hungry baby. Hang in there!

[HouseofWool]

That doctor is a douche mcgouche.


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Susinct as always, Cassy!

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[TigerLily]

That doctor is a douche mcgouche.

agree.
I think you should feed your baby as much as she wants. Ansley had some pretty bad reflux. and we would get in a patterns where she would want to nurse to comfort herself or maybe sooth her throat because she was in pain. But that doesn't mean she's not hungry.
Have you tried Zantac? It really really really helped us right away.

[moonlight]

Here I am. The mom with the bad reflux baby from a couple years ago. It's very stressful. I'm sorry but that doc is nuts. I've never heard that advice. Ever. And I've talked with no less that 30 moms that had babies with reflux. I rarely tell anyone on just go do something but honestly save your sanity and the baby and get the Zantac. It won't stop the big spit ups but it Will Stop the screaming.
I'm so sorry you had to put her through that tonight.

[Momo]

I used Mylacon drops or the generic equivalents w/ my kiddos when they were infants. After DS1 started to become colicky, I remembered a friend suggesting I use them prophylactically. I would give them before his evening & nighttime feedings. I didn't like using the dropper because he would sometimes jerk his head and poke himself w/ it, so I would just place the drop on my nipple right before he latched on. I later would put a few drops on pacifiers for my ones that would take a paci. This only help w/ gas bubbles in the upper tummy & needs to be done ahead of feeding. I also would interrupt the feeding to burp more often, as to avoid the "big burp " & often the spit up that would accompany it.

[moonlight]

Is she having really big spit ups or does she sometimes (or always) throw up after she eats?

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Huge spit ups. And almost always throws up after she eats. I think that's why the pedi thought I was overfeeding her - not enough time for gastric emptying. But I feel like she would fuss and refuse the breast if she were too full.

So last night was slightly better. I fed her in a new position I devised: me on my side and propping her up to sitting and feeding off my top breast. I burped her at every pause (she whined about that but whatever). I let her fall asleep on me and then transferred her to my shoulder for more burping until she completely passes out. Then I put her down propped up nearly to sitting. She woke once, burped and went right back to sleep.

I think she's a bigger baby who eats a lot and has some reflux. I don't think I'm overfeeding her and I'm not going to ignore hunger cues bc that's absurd, at least with the reflux only one of us is crying! I nearly died yesterday trying to stall her from eating.

[HouseofWool]

Okay, I am at a computer now, so I can type out a better response. Personally, I think the ped is a dipshit. BF babies don't really over eat. I guess it would be possible, technically, but not very likely.

The more you describe the sx, the more it really sounds like reflux. Do you have another ped that you know that you can see? I think a trial of zantac is in order given everything you are describing.

FWIW, neither of my kids slept lying down in the beginning either. Car seats, bouncy chairs and swings were my life savers.

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

I'm going to wait another night or two and see if my methods keep helping or if that was just a flash in the pan. The fact that she went to sleep with only one 5 minute waking instead of the 2-3 (and sometimes 4) hour process of putting her to bed was a good sign. I'm also going to try Momo's suggestion of Px giving the simethicone drops (Mylicon). I was giving them after a feed but before might make a difference as well!

And she was only up 3 other times last night which again is a pretty big improvement!

I'm glad you guys agree that I'm not overfeeding her! When I held off feeding her, you could tell from her initial sucking that she was frantic so she was truly hungry!

[Thirteen]

Let the Ped hold her while you feed her only every 3 hours, and not a moment earlier.

What a crock!
Your body self-regulates to your infant's specific, ever-changing needs.
I had a friend who was told something similar, in the hospital, by healthcare professionals. The day after her child was born. Unbelieveable!


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[Michele]

My sister used to mix the Mylicon in with the bottles for my nephew. It was amazing to watch the difference even just in the bottle....then with his spitting up. He wouldn't spit up if she dosed him with the Mylicon. If she didn't, he did.

So I definitely agree that you should try pre-treating!!

[Momo]

My sister used to mix the Mylicon in with the bottles for my nephew. It was amazing to watch the difference even just in the bottle....then with his spitting up. He wouldn't spit up if she dosed him with the Mylicon. If she didn't, he did.

So I definitely agree that you should try pre-treating!!

DS1 was a major spit up/projectile baby...once I used the drops it was just like Michele described w/ her nephew. BTW I would try the drops first before going the Zantac route. Zantac should be a last resort,since it can effect the normal gut flora... but that's usually w/ prolonged use.

Sounds like the new position & more frequent burping is helping...you'll get this figured out! (((hugs)))

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Yeah, I would prefer to try a few more days before going the Zantac route bc then I can avoid having to wean her from it.

[alison]

Yes! Rule out gas before going the Zantac/reflux route. I think you're on the right track!