Reflux update (BF experts come in!)

[ladymoreta]

I hope it does help! Some babies are ready for the early bedtime sooner, but I think a lot of it has to do with them working out consolidating their sleep. My little bad sleepers just take longer. She'll eventually need an earlier bedtime, but DS still doesn't go down until 8:30, and I'm okay with that. It gives DH some time after work with him, and we can all eat supper together when DH is home.

ETA - DD was also fussy in the evenings. We knew she was tired, but she just wouldn't stay asleep. If one of us could just sit on the couch with her and let her doze off and on, that worked best. It also helped to play white noise (we used our cell phones).

[Bittersweet]

Yeah, we didn't encourage a bed time until 4-5 months (don't remember exactly). DS frequently stayed up until 10:00. Trying to put him down earlier was completey unsuccessful and frustrating for all involved. Plus, I think calorie wise he needed to cluster feed throughout the evening. His bed time just naturally and gradually moved earlier and earlier. There's probably not a parenting book around that would advise that method but it worked for us.

[Thirteen]

Yeah, we didn't encourage a bed time until 4-5 months (don't remember exactly). DS frequently stayed up until 10:00. Trying to put him down earlier was completey unsuccessful and frustrating for all involved. Plus, I think calorie wise he needed to cluster feed throughout the evening. His bed time just naturally and gradually moved earlier and earlier. There's probably not a parenting book around that would advise that method but it worked for us.

This was us.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

This was us.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why do all the parenting resources say shit that no one does? Or only give one way to do anything? It makes it impossible to know what to do when the "one" way doesn't work.

[Michele]

It's a conspiracy to keep us all second guessing and questioning our methods and to keep us feeling guilty that we are messing up our children so that we buy more and more parenting books thus feeding the pockets of the "experts.".

[scrub-jay]

Best parenting advice ever: Your child is an individual, if something isn't working, try something else. There is no one RIGHT way.

[SoonerTexan]

N stays up until 10 consistently. Sometimes later. And since she us sleeping so well I'm not touching it

[MrsK]

When K1 was a newborn, I discussed sleep training with a friend who was a sleep psychiatrist and father of 2. He said we shouldn't worry about it until our babies were 6 months old. In the meanwhile, it's ok to snuggle them all night if you want to. You won't spoil them and you will soon miss that time with them.

[GrayMatterWife]

Huge spit ups. And almost always throws up after she eats. I think that's why the pedi thought I was overfeeding her - not enough time for gastric emptying. But I feel like she would fuss and refuse the breast if she were too full.

First, I suggest you find a different doc. Clearly, you guys don't click. You deserve better, for you and Baby.

However--and I know I will get booed here--I think you are substituting your non-medical opinion for his medical opinion. What you "feel" and you "think." Which is fine, if you don't want a medical opinion and want to go on your mother's intuition. But I wouldn't confuse the two.

I am not an advocate of feeding the baby on demand, until she is full, whenever she wants. You'll get no sleep, she won't learn to self-soothe, and I know a LOT of really fat babies--not cute fat, but unhealthy fat. THere is nothing magical about breastmilk that means that the calories don't count or that means that she should get it whenever she wants. Why would you be nursing every ninety minutes? I'd be nearly suicidal.

That's just me--my experience with my three kids. I fed on a schedule and did not feed or nurse to soothe. Soothing was cuddling, swaddling, and a pacifier until age 4 months.

Again, though. I am sure that I will get booed here.

[Thirteen]

It's a conspiracy to keep us all second guessing and questioning our methods and to keep us feeling guilty that we are messing up our children so that we buy more and more parenting books thus feeding the pockets of the "experts.".

LOL!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[scrub-jay]

I would just like to step in here with my moderator hat on to issue a friendly reminder that this is not in the debates section and I do not want this thread to degrade into an all-out brawl regarding parenting styles. The tone of the OP was put forth looking for support, even if experiences differ, please keep it friendly.

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

Thanks to everyone for their input - it's been great to hear about different remedies and I agree, I just need to find another doc.

As an update, she spent 3 hours wailing last night and has been wailing for an hour tonight already (DH is taking a turn, thank god). She refuses to nurse, she's just screaming in pain. So in this case, it's not a nursing/not nursing issue. It's killing me to hear her scream. Killing me. I feel so horrible for her.

I might try a trial of Zantac (with a new doc) simply because I want to leave no stone unturned. I really don't think it's reflux but I can't take the hours of wailing every night. We didn't even try to put her to bed tonight, she just started with the pained wailing at 9.

[ladymoreta]

I forget if we've mentioned it in this thread, but have you tried the 5 S's from Happiest Baby on the Block when she starts wailing? (I cheat on the shushing and use a white noise "song" on repeat on my iPhone.) DS would do that, and we had to use all 5 S's, but he'd calm down after a couple minutes

[Thirteen]

I'm not even sure if these will work, but....

DH would put DS into the Ergo and go on a "night hike" with him (headlamp and all) for about 2 hours. Usually, 45min-1hr in, DS would fall asleep.
Do you guys have a safe place to walk? Do you have a carrier?

I had success holding him high up over my shoulder, supporting his bottom and neck, and "walk-bouncing" over and over again around our house.
He wouldn't really take a pacifier, so I would use my shoulder to keep it in his mouth until he would finally latch on and take it. (He used a paci for about 3 weeks, and then it didn't work anymore).

How is DD in the car? Can one of you drive her around until she falls asleep?

Is teething/growth spurt a possibility? Is she old enough to take Tylenol? Are you comfortable with giving it to her?

[diggitydot]

All three of our stooges had colic. Awful, horrible, screaming-for-no-fucking-reason colic. The only thing that interrupted their screeching long enough for them to realize how exhausted they were was a shower. Sounds silly, but I'd jump in the shower and they'd immediate stop screaming. We'd stay until the water started to cool, get dried off, into clean jammies, and they'd zonk out for a couple hours. We only discovered this by pure accident when DD1 ed and shit all over herself and me during a hissy fit. We HAD to hit the shower and discovered it was the Magical Land of Happy Babyville.

There are as many different parenting styles as there are parents. Do whatever works for you and your kiddos and keep trying even weird shit if it helps. Truthfully, you never know what weird things your kids like until you try them.