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  • Almost-3-Year-Old Behavior

    Ok, I've officially read too many parenting books and articles and my head is spinning from all the somewhat conflicting advice. I need to hear from real people.

    We've had a hell of a summer full of extreme 2 1/2 year old behavior. It started with aggressive, explosive tantrums that were almost daily at their peak. Now that I've finally started developing the skills to deal with those, ("You're upset that _____! I'm not going to let you kick/hit me. I will hold you/take you to your room/etc. until you have calmed down." All while silently screaming inside my own head...) now the tantrums are finally dying down and now we're getting more of the 3-year old style of sass, not listening, and intentional acting out. She'll be 3 at the beginning of January.

    The best recent example is dinner time. DH and I have recently stopped all food-related negotiation and cajoling, it was making us crazy. Before we would spend half our meal asking her to please take at least one bite of each thing on her plate, etc. We finally admitted that it was doing no good and we're trying to bite our tongues and let her eat what she's going to eat. Most days this week, she eats a couple things - usually just her vegetables, never the protein or carbs - and then she starts spitting or throwing things. She doesn't usually seem angry, I think it's attention seeking (maybe the food negotiation was a form of attention that she's not getting anymore?). I've been doing my best to calmly say "that's too bad. I don't allow spitting/throwing at the table. Your meal is over now." and I send her away from the table. I was previously saying "you may come back when you've controlled yourself" but she would just act sorry, come back and then do it all again, so I've cut off her second chances. But leaving the table is its own reward, and I also don't want her to go hungry. I don't like punitive time outs, I do prefer using natural consequences and leaving the table is the most natural consequence I can come up with for misbehaving at dinner.

    It comes out of nowhere - she will be eating peacefully one moment and then she's throwing food to the floor and stomping on it. I'll admit that DH and I have both "rewarded" her behavior with frustration and anger on many occasions. She comes by her stubborn, feisty temperament honestly and it pushes our buttons!

    She has always been especially stubborn and willful at home, and incredibly well behaved at daycare. She knows how she's supposed to behave and she usually has remarkable self control for her age, to the point that I think she's a bit of a pressure cooker. She comes home and lets it all out. This week she's starting to boil over at daycare too, and has pushed classmates and is sassing her teacher - at a normal age-appropriate level, but still not OK.

    Help! I need more ideas for my parenting toolbox! I'm so effing tired.
    Wife of PGY-4 (of 6), cat herder, and mom to a sassy-pants four-nager.

  • #2
    BIG HUG, first. The struggle is real.
    I would say don't worry about her getting enough to eat, unless she's falling off the growth curve entirely and you are already supplementing her diet.
    When she's hungry, she will eat. I promise! It sucks that they know where to push the buttons though, right?

    It sounds like any sort of communication when she's tooled up goes nowhere: since she already knows what is expected and what will happen, I would either keep it to a simple sentence (like you said you were doing with "You are finished now.") or wordlessly remove her. If she's leaving the table and going somewhere that she associates with fun and play, it needs to change. Does she have toys in her room? Find a time out spot where she is contained where there are no toys. Toys or books in the living room? Send her to her room. Is she attempting to leave her room? Childproof the door, or perhaps a two-step, incredibly tall baby gate that she cannot open. Normally I'd say one minute for every year of age, but our oldest did this with meals, and typical time out format didn't cut it. We decided to go with "When I am finished with dinner, I will come and get you."

    Finally, if she is making a mess, I would first make her clean it up (obviously the quality is going to be shoddy, but it's the action that counts) and *then* remove her.
    This may mean loads of repetition and physically helping her wipe the floor with whatever, and throwing it away. Now granted, my experience is n=2 for three year olds, but they seem to need tons of hands-on, frustrating follow-through.
    Wife to Family Medicine attending, Mom to DS1 and DS2
    Professional Relocation Specialist &
    "The Official IMSN Enabler"

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    • #3
      Well, it's helpful to know I'm not being too harsh in your book! I thought maybe making her leave when she's clearly acting out for attention wasn't the right way to go. She's a big kid and eats a lot of veggies, so I don't really worry about eating. We were originally doing the "try everything on your plate" because often once she had one bite of something she was refusing, she would realize she wanted to eat it. But it wasn't the hill we wanted to die on. I saw my brother bullying his poor kid about eating dinner and realized I had to stop even the small amount of pressure we were doing before it became an issue.

      The only toys in her room are stuffed animals and books, but those are reward enough... I hate to take them out though because they are an integral part of bedtime and I'll be shuttling them back and forth repeatedly.

      She usually comes out of her room and says "I'm ready to listen now." Which of course lasts about 2 minutes before she's at it again. That's usually the point when I snap at her and get grumpy, so I definitely need to prevent that. If I tell her to stay in her room until I come and get her, she will probably obey. Which actually reminds me what a really good kid she is. I definitely need to enforce the cleaning up, I'm hit or miss about that. So you're saying, as with all things toddler, I just need to keep slogging through!?
      Wife of PGY-4 (of 6), cat herder, and mom to a sassy-pants four-nager.

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      • #4
        We have gone/are still going through so much of this same behavior. As far as mealtime goes, if T starts acting up he gets 1 warning, then after that he goes to his room. (Either on his own or I carry him.) Every kid is different, but for my boys it's worked best if I tell them that they can come back down when they're done crying/ready to eat/whatever the problem behavior was is over ... then, if they return to the table we all act totally nonchalant like nothing happened. ("Happy you're back," then right back to whatever conversation the rest of the table was having.) Continuing to harp on it or discuss whatever they were doing wrong previously is not helpful, in my opinion. If they don't come back before we're done eating, then that's it. No more food until the next meal. I really try (not always successfully, but still I try) not to let the meal time battles get to me or to let the boys see me get frustrated by their antics. Acting calm has been helpful for us.

        Honestly, all of the behaviors you've described seem totally normal to me. Super frustrating, yes, but it sounds like you're doing everything right to get through this phase with as much of your sanity as possible intact.

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        • #5
          C made mealtimes pretty difficult too at that age. I think much of it was because he wanted to join in the conversation with DH and I and get attention.
          We turned more to a reward based system. If he ate so many bites of each thing he would get a piece of fruit or two M&M's or something. It still works really well for him at 4 (this week). I wouldn't tolerate throwing of food either though. That would result in a time out in the corner or the loss of a privilege (screen time/toy)
          The battle of wills were/are the hardest for me. But I think as long as you're not frightening them into eating or letting them get away with it you'll be just fine. In other words, exactly what you're doing.

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          Student and Mom to an Oct 2013 boy
          Wife to Anesthesia Critical Care attending

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          • #6
            I don't have fond memories of that age for either kid, particularly #2, but even easygoing #1 was rough then. Not looking forward to experiencing it with #3. #1 and #2 calmed down in the 3s though, or at least moved onto different frustrating behaviors

            I cant say I have any great advice, though :/
            Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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            • #7
              Sounds totally normal to me. You are doing exactly as I do. They do grow out of it eventually.

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