Re: Tonight's democratic debates
Disagree? Well, I thought that was pretty clever. I am not sure if it rises to "freakin' awesome," but I have pretty high standards in terms of oration and rhetoric from political professionals... but I'll give her that it was definitely clever.
The problem, for HRC, I think, is not that she can't be clever. Her problem seems to be that because she and Obama are so similar in their politic positions, that she can't rely on "I stand for this, he stands for that, my position is better" argument. Instead, she needs to give the voters a reason to choose her over him because she is the better the vehicle to effect those positions. It's not about substantively differentiating the two, I don't think--they have so much in common. It's about selling her as the best banner carrier. And recently, she hasn't been able to do that, primarily because she can't effectively attack Obama. And when she tries to attack, the efforts seem contrived and too "planned" and kind of petty. Plagiarism related to those remarks? Let it go. No one cares. Not even most of the Reps cared. We weren't making fun of him for it or challenging him on it. We just thought she was crazy to fall for the media's taunt, in asking her for her response.
It must be frustrating for her, because he definitely has weaknesses to attack, which I think have become a bit more evident in his last two speeches: he gets long-winded, repetitve, and relies on sweeping, grand imagery rather than concrete ("policy wonkish")-type solutions. He walks a precarious but effective balance: he says enough to sound wonderful but not enough to give his opponents something to specifically, substantively criticize. Frankly, it's a matter of what-he-doesn't-have-in-real-experience,-he-makes-up-for-in-great-talk. She really could challenge his ability to actually effect the goals that most liberal Dems share--if she could find a way to palletably do it. And she hasn't figured out how to do that, yet.
She should call John McCain. I bet he's got a team working 24/7 to figure out how to best challenge Obama...
Originally posted by PrincessFiona
The problem, for HRC, I think, is not that she can't be clever. Her problem seems to be that because she and Obama are so similar in their politic positions, that she can't rely on "I stand for this, he stands for that, my position is better" argument. Instead, she needs to give the voters a reason to choose her over him because she is the better the vehicle to effect those positions. It's not about substantively differentiating the two, I don't think--they have so much in common. It's about selling her as the best banner carrier. And recently, she hasn't been able to do that, primarily because she can't effectively attack Obama. And when she tries to attack, the efforts seem contrived and too "planned" and kind of petty. Plagiarism related to those remarks? Let it go. No one cares. Not even most of the Reps cared. We weren't making fun of him for it or challenging him on it. We just thought she was crazy to fall for the media's taunt, in asking her for her response.
It must be frustrating for her, because he definitely has weaknesses to attack, which I think have become a bit more evident in his last two speeches: he gets long-winded, repetitve, and relies on sweeping, grand imagery rather than concrete ("policy wonkish")-type solutions. He walks a precarious but effective balance: he says enough to sound wonderful but not enough to give his opponents something to specifically, substantively criticize. Frankly, it's a matter of what-he-doesn't-have-in-real-experience,-he-makes-up-for-in-great-talk. She really could challenge his ability to actually effect the goals that most liberal Dems share--if she could find a way to palletably do it. And she hasn't figured out how to do that, yet.
She should call John McCain. I bet he's got a team working 24/7 to figure out how to best challenge Obama...
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