sarah palin part deux

[GrayMatterWife]

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Wow. It can certainly be done as my parents were married and had me at 17 yo and they're still together with 3 kids, but I can't imagine the stress of trying to do that in the national spotlight during elections.

Well, now the liberal bloggers are going to write that it is clear that Palin shouldn't be VP because she is doing a terrible job as a mother since her daughter is pregnant, I am sure. Maybe they'll feel a victory if the girl miscarries under all the stress. Then Palin would be a terrible mom for not having better protected her. She didn't lie, she didn't mislead, and she certainly is the mother of Trig. She simply decided that it was not appropriate to discuss the medical condition of her minor daughter on a very private issue.

What a bunch of hypocrits. Ugh.

Whatever. Now I am just kind of pissed off. Palin is supporting her daughter the best way any of us could in the situation, and is probably going to be excoriated for it. She hasn't done anything wrong.

[GrayMatterWife]

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I hope it's true that McCain knew. Logic would dictate that when you get the offer, you'd disclose what would likely be a huge bombshell .... but if she didn't that would really put her behind the eight-ball from the get-go.

If he didn't know--she didn't disclose this--she should withdraw her name IMMEDIATELY. McCain deserved to know so that he and the RNC could be ahead of the story and choose how to handle it, because it clearly would be an issue. If McCain knew, then the burden is now on him to establish that how this was handled showed good judgment.

If I had known, I doubt I personally would have chosen her--not because it disqualified her, but because it would be a headache, no matter how it was presented. But, if he believed that she was worth this headache, I am willing to give her a shot and see if McCain's judgment was correct. He's been right on other hard calls before.

[poky]

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So when is she due? Cause this could be pregnancy number two for Bristol, right? Just cause she is pg now, doesnt mean she wasnt a year ago. Now, I dont really think it is possible from someone in the public eye to fake a pregnancy but I dont think the fact that her daughter is pg now is absolute proof that Sarah is Trig's mother.

Actually, if the numbers are correct, it is. My understanding is that Trig was born mid-April this year, and they're saying that Bristol's 5 months pregnant now. Even if they're fudging that by a month, it seems *highly* unlikely she'd have gotten pregnant again *that* quickly...it would have had to be within just a couple weeks of Trig's birthdate.

This actually explains why Bristol's doing a lot of the caring for Trig, to me, too - getting some practice in, maybe?

[Cumberland]

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I think everyone is fallible. I personally dont think we should hold our candidates to the most rigid of personal standards- FDR had a mistress, JFK had a mistress(es) and they are both regarded highly for the positive impact they had on the country. Just bc she has a daughter that is pg doesnt mean she cant be an excellent policymaker.

[SuzySunshine]

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Yikes! I go out to run errands with my family and all hell breaks loose. It will be very interesting to see what this does to that super conservative base that was so excited she was so pro-life, etc. But I say good for them for sharing it, better now then in a few months when she can't hide it. For those of you that saw Palin's acceptance speech on Friday did you notice she was holding Trig with his blanket covering her tummy. I can't imagine that wasn't on purpose.

[DCJenn]

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Honestly- I don't give a rat's ass if the girl is pregnant or not- but talk about a really, really, really bad way to handle it!

It should have been disclosed immediately, like, "oh, I have five kids. Our daughter Bristol..." Like right after they talked about the eldest going to Iraq.

Now, it's everywhere, rumors are flying and once again McCain is on the defensive.

Obviously people knew there was a pregnancy- people are going to talk. and as Sandy has pointed out time and again, people with an agenda will be the very first people out there in Crazy Internetland.

What a headache for the Republicans.

Jenn

(and unfortunately, you know that there is a VERY conservative element out there saying exactly what Tara brought up, "you wouldn't see this sort of behavior with a ______ parent" [male, SAH, etc.]

[GrayMatterWife]

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Honestly- I don't give a rat's ass if the girl is pregnant or not- but talk about a really, really, really bad way to handle it!

I agree! To announce your impending premature grandparenthood essentially to head off an even worse rumor?

Well, at least no one lied. It is nice to survive a political scandal with no one lying, for once.

[GrayMatterWife]

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I think everyone is fallible. I personally dont think we should hold our candidates to the most rigid of personal standards- FDR had a mistress, JFK had a mistress(es) and they are both regarded highly for the positive impact they had on the country. Just bc she has a daughter that is pg doesnt mean she cant be an excellent policymaker.

But, seriously...she might want to rethink her strong advocacy of abstinence-only sex education in public schools.

(A point on which I differ with many of my socially conservative compadres...)

[GrayMatterWife]

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For those of you that saw Palin's acceptance speech on Friday did you notice she was holding Trig with his blanket covering her tummy.

She also was wearing her engagement ring.

Poor kid. Could you imagine being five months' pregnant, finishing high school, engaged to be married, family suddenly thrust into the national spotlight, and you become a potential liability for your own mom?

[Sheherezade]

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In defense of the liberal gossip postings.....I can see this contributing to the postings on DailyKos, etc. Someone whispers "Oh yeah, there is a story cooking with her!" and all the blogs start guessing. All it would take would be someone saying "Well, you don't have it right exactly, but there is something up with the daughter." Hmmm. :huh: I don't think a reputable site would go with the story, but I can see how a gossip site might be pushed to get the story out first and just hope it was right.

I think what always gets "us liberals" is that when *our* teenage daughters get pregnant, everyone assumes it WAS bad parenting because we are "stupid liberals" that have poor family values and untraditional beliefs. When it happens to a good conservative religious family, we are supposed to look outside the labels and realize that all families are complex. People make mistakes. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but I know that families are complex and I know that people make mistakes. The acceptance of that as a fact of life is one of the reasons I'm socially liberal. I'd like the same level of understanding and forgiveness offered to my clan from conservatives - even though we don't preach abstinence only and don't go to church every Sunday. :huh:

I read today that Palin had legally smoked marijuana and had been open about it. Between the teen pregnancy and the marijuana story, she may be opening up all sorts of conversations. For that, I have to say I do like her in the VP slot. Not your same old Republican playbook - that's for sure.

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I think what always gets "us liberals" is that when *our* teenage daughters get pregnant, everyone assumes it WAS bad parenting because we are "stupid liberals" that have poor family values and untraditional beliefs. When it happens to a good conservative religious family, we are supposed to look outside the labels and realize that all families are complex. People make mistakes. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but I know that families are complex and I know that people make mistakes. The acceptance of that as a fact of life is one of the reasons I'm socially liberal. I'd like the same level of understanding and forgiveness offered to my clan from conservatives - even though we don't preach abstinence only and don't go to church every Sunday. :huh:

On the other side of the coin... I grew up around super-conservative people, and it seemed like whenever someone who claimed to be a Christian had some sort of scandal, it added that extra element of ridicule for the hypocrisy. IMO, it doesn't matter where you stand - people in general are just quick to judge and to feel judged. Why can't we all just love each other?

I do feel sorry for Bristol. As she grows up, I imagine she'll wonder how much her pregnancy affected her mom's career. Hopefully the family really will support her unconditionally.