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  • Ebola coming to the US

    So, after the CDC assured us last week that there was little chance of Ebola coming to the US, they've decided to transport 2 US citizens with Ebola back to the US to be treated.

    http://health.usnews.com/health-news...-for-treatment

    I'm disturbed by this decision, because one of the biggest challenges aid and health workers have had in the heart of the outbreak is a deep distrust of the medical community. And the CDC has been trumpeting the "trust us, we're doing everything that is possible" until US citizens get sick, then they get medically evacuated? What happens when other aid workers get sick? Are we setting a precedent here? The CDC has stated that any hospital with an ICU can easily set up a isolation for Ebola. Um, really?

    Furthermore, anyone else concerned with the CDC's record of containing deadly diseases in the past few months?
    Last edited by scrub-jay; 08-01-2014, 08:09 AM.
    Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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    I was shocked tbh. Of course if it were my family I'd want them treated in the US, I certainly get that but in this case the needs of the many truly do outweigh the needs of the few. I don't know why they don't send a team to the sick?
    Tara
    Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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    • #3
      I agree; if it were my family I would want them here but I think it's more important to not risk the health of millions of Americans to save these two. I have little faith in most any government entity so maybe I'm just too cynical to believe they aren't going to fuck this up epically.
      wife of a PGY-2 anesthesiology resident & mother of one adorable baby girl

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      • #4
        Well, now I'm rethinking (and realize I know absolutely nothing about ID). Maybe I WOULDN'T want my family here. I mean, it's not like US docs treat Ebola on a regular basis or have even seen it. So now I don't know. I still believe they should not be brought back to the US (as harsh as that may sound).

        I would love to hear from Kris about what her hubby thinks. And GMW as her hubby is at Emory correct?
        Tara
        Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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        • #5
          Ebola coming to the US

          The current outbreak is 60% fatal, however Ebola Zaire (which this one is a subset of) generally has a 90% fatality rate. I suspect the actual rate in this outbreak is much higher because so many in the affected African countries do not trust the healthcare, so they are staying out of hospitals and dying at home. This worsens the spread bc the virus can live for a long time in a deceased host.

          I've read that Emory does have an appropriate isolation unit, so that's good, but from my (very limited) understanding, most of the treatments are comfort-measures and massive fluids to control inflammation. This is not something that is only possible in the US, it's the same thing that's being done currently.
          Last edited by scrub-jay; 08-01-2014, 08:41 AM.
          Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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          • #6
            I read they actually tried a transfusion on one of the infected people of blood from someone who survived (to get the antibodies) - that kind of treatment won't be available in the US.

            I feel like this is a case where the "US is the best" may come back to haunt us.
            Married to a Urology Attending! (that is an understated exclamation point)
            Mama to C (Jan 2012), D (Nov 2013), and R (April 2016). Consulting and homeschooling are my day jobs.

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            • #7
              I wonder by who and why the decision was made? And they only talk about one going to Emory but they are bringing both back. Where will the second patient be?
              Last edited by Pollyanna; 08-01-2014, 08:46 AM.
              Tara
              Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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              • #8
                From what I can tell, the CDC director advised against it, but the missionary group who the two patients worked for (with?) has been heading up this push. Also, the physician who is sick had his wife & kids with him and they came back to the US a week or so before he showed symptoms. His kids & wife are currently on fever watch, but are fine so far.
                Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by scrub-jay View Post
                  From what I can tell, the CDC director advised against it, but the missionary group who the two patients worked for (with?) has been heading up this push. Also, the physician who is sick had his wife & kids with him and they came back to the US a week or so before he showed symptoms. His kids & wife are currently on fever watch, but are fine so far.
                  Wow, that makes it even scarier...
                  Tara
                  Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pollyanna View Post
                    Wow, that makes it even scarier...
                    My thoughts exactly. I'll just say it: I don't think they should bring them back, sorry I just don't. I am having flashbacks to "Contagion".
                    Wife, support system, and partner-in-crime to PGY-3 (IM) and spoiler of our 11 y/o yellow lab

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                    • #11
                      Exactly! What does fever watch even mean?! I hope it means quarantined.
                      wife of a PGY-2 anesthesiology resident & mother of one adorable baby girl

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                      • #12
                        This is very "The Stand"...
                        Or hell, "The Walking Dead".

                        More thoughts later... Hungry toddler.
                        Wife to Family Medicine attending, Mom to DS1 and DS2
                        Professional Relocation Specialist &
                        "The Official IMSN Enabler"

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                        • #13
                          I get the fear, but my first thought after seeing a picture of the doc and his family was, "omg they are us." They trained in Ft Worth and have two kids. I'd be fighting like hell to get him brought back if it were my husband.

                          Good thing I don't work at the CDC.

                          DH was wondering how they could safely transport him
                          Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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                          • #14
                            It scares me, too. The Hot Zone scared the crap out of me.
                            Laurie
                            My team: DH (anesthesiologist), DS (9), DD (8)

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                            • #15
                              Really though, is Ebola going to come here through this situation or through any commercial flight originating from Africa or carrying anybody that has been in the affected area recently?
                              Married to a newly minted Pediatric Rad, momma to a sweet girl and a bunch of (mostly) cute boy monsters.



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