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  • #31
    [MENTION=3775]JDAZ11[/MENTION] I don't think voting for him or for a third party means you can't protest. It's important for everyone, regardless of who they voted for or even if they didn't vote at all, to let their elected leaders know their concerns. I know Trump voters who were at the protest because they are not happy with his policies. Many of the Trump voters I know, for instance, are very upset about his pick for Secretary of Education. Voting for him is not at blind endorsement of his every action.

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    • #32
      FWIW, a distant relative of mine overseas told me that he believes that Trump made the infamous "pussy" statement as a cautionary lesson with the intent of educating people about what not to say. While I'm not eager to argue with people about their political leanings on Facebook, I had to say something.

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      • #33
        [MENTION=4964]Howfunitis[/MENTION]. I hope you feel safe sharing here. There are a lot of different experiences represented in this group. Respectful, thoughtful conversations that have occurred in this forum have informed my opinions and helped me to see through others eyes. I'd like to hear more from Trump and/conservative voters too.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MrsK View Post
          [MENTION=3775]JDAZ11[/MENTION] I don't think voting for him or for a third party means you can't protest. It's important for everyone, regardless of who they voted for or even if they didn't vote at all, to let their elected leaders know their concerns. I know Trump voters who were at the protest because they are not happy with his policies. Many of the Trump voters I know, for instance, are very upset about his pick for Secretary of Education. Voting for him is not at blind endorsement of his every action.

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          True, although I think I was completely aware that I would be disappointed in his pick for most cabinet positions, and I absolutely thought a lot about how horrified I'd be by his Supreme Court pick. But at the same time, I was weirdly uncomfortable with Scalia' seat going to a liberal. I'm equally concerned about Ginsberg not making it four years.....

          Anyway - thanks for helping with my post election guilt! I've honestly felt horrible about myself the last week watching the transition. I know that my vote didn't seal the deal. I've just felt badly for not adequately thinking through the results of my decision. (I'd be pissed about most things going down during a Hillary reign as well, it's just not happening, so easier for me to ignore those realities right now..... clearly my first time voting for a third party... lol. I thought I was opting out of voters remorse, apparently not how it works for me).


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          • #35
            Originally posted by JDAZ11 View Post
            True, although I think I was completely aware that I would be disappointed in his pick for most cabinet positions, and I absolutely thought a lot about how horrified I'd be by his Supreme Court pick. But at the same time, I was weirdly uncomfortable with Scalia' seat going to a liberal. I'm equally concerned about Ginsberg not making it four years.....

            Anyway - thanks for helping with my post election guilt! I've honestly felt horrible about myself the last week watching the transition. I know that my vote didn't seal the deal. I've just felt badly for not adequately thinking through the results of my decision. (I'd be pissed about most things going down during a Hillary reign as well, it's just not happening, so easier for me to ignore those realities right now..... clearly my first time voting for a third party... lol. I thought I was opting out of voters remorse, apparently not how it works for me).


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            First of all, what you knew or didn't know prior to the election is irrelevant. This is your president now and you have every right to let him know if he's doing a good or bad job. Secondly, it's not his "reign". An inauguration is not a coronation. It's the date an employee of the American people starts his new job.

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            • #36
              His cabinet choices of underwhelming, non-qualified people deeply concerns me. And, I would like to add that I have voted for republican, democrat, and libertarian candidates in the past, so it's not simply a partisan slant.
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              • #37
                I attended a sister protest. After months of being shocked, dumbfounded, and horrified, it was empowering to be surrounded by such hope and positivity. I'm afraid this election has left me forever changed. As I was looking forward to going back into my non-political bubble an easy no brainer election turned into this. For the most part, Facebook has become my political sounding board. A large portion of my friends have become as vocal as me. I don't think the intended audience is in any way for opposing or indifferent viewpoints. We're all doing our research then sharing what we find most important. I've never had an issue with friends sharing crummy or inaccurate news. Though there are still a few posting memes about how Sanders would've won. I'm in a couple groups intent on organizing and action. As I posted on inauguration day, I never felt helpless before this election. Now I feel helpless but also enormous pressure to do everything I can to preserve the rights and safety of minorities: women, children, racial and religious minorities, and the LGBTQ population. As far as I'm concerned the protest was a feel good moment at the beginning of a long, cruel battle.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                  His cabinet choices of underwhelming, non-qualified people deeply concerns me. And, I would like to add that I have voted for republican, democrat, and libertarian candidates in the past, so it's not simply a partisan slant.
                  I think I'm less horrified by his cabinet choices than by W's. Even if these guys are conservative and politically inexperienced, they don't approach the level of dread I felt with the Ashcroft/Cheney team, which seemed positively evil.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by fluffhead View Post
                    I think I'm less horrified by his cabinet choices than by W's. Even if these guys are conservative and politically inexperienced, they don't approach the level of dread I felt with the Ashcroft/Cheney team, which seemed positively evil.
                    I'll toast to that.


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by fluffhead View Post
                      I think I'm less horrified by his cabinet choices than by W's. Even if these guys are conservative and politically inexperienced, they don't approach the level of dread I felt with the Ashcroft/Cheney team, which seemed positively evil.
                      Those guys (whether you agreed with them or not) were probably a lot more effective from day 1 as well...you know, having worked in government before.


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                      • #41
                        Many in NYC "marched" (it was more of a standstill) and many traveled to DC, where the attendance was apparently double the expected. I had another event but would've loved to attend. From what I've heard it involved a fantastic variety of causes represented, and loads of positive energy. It was just what we needed.

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                        • #42
                          https://medium.com/@dinachka82/about...a6f#.ubstrt6qt

                          And now all the condescending posts on Facebook. If mansplaining is a thing, then I am officially making "womensplaining" into a new one. Stop "womensplaining" my gender, my life, and how I am supposed to feel about X list of issues. The irony is incredible.
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                          • #43
                            Blech. I'm writing her off as an outlier. From my over-politicized FB feed and iMSN peers it seems like it was an engaging and empowering event about multiple equality concerns. I think what she's saying has validity, but her delivery makes me want to stick my fingers in my ears.
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                            • #44
                              P.S. My husband would love equal time with our kids. He has never been the person they turn to in need, and he's an incredible father. He makes breakfast for them (and me) every morning. Equal pay should equalize those family burdens, but there's an immeasurable cost/benefit that most mother's encounter for time with their children that not necessarily corporate friendly. It's certainly exploited and needs to be addressed. I stand behind that. Equal work = equal pay. I still wouldn't trade him and his place in life/family for the world.
                              -Ladybug

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                              • #45
                                The whole equal pay for equal work is kind of a misnomer. Most recent research shows that when you control for things like hours/week (more are more likely to be PT), the wage gap for identical jobs is <10% (still unacceptable obviously). The way more important issue is actually that women have many fewer opportunities to get to the higher/highest paying jobs because of social pressures on them to also be a wife, mother, etc. I would have liked to keep working FT, there was NO possible way for me to do that at this stage in my life and I have a job where I can afford a good nanny (which is the exception, not the rule) while my husband has an equally time consuming job. I cannot tell you how many times coworkers would say "I don't know how you're doing it" and that's when I only had two children and DH was at his away rotation. I simply couldn't keep traveling while he was away, it was a safety issue for my children having no parent/family within a 150 miles if something went wrong.

                                We need to work for work flexibility regardless of sex. That would make everyone's lives better. Most dads I know would love to be more involved but there's tremendous pressure on men too to NOT slow down when they have kids.
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