Gay Marriage

[PrincessFiona]

agreed..but I promise not to accuse you of being cliquish for restating what we already said

Welcome to the debate forum....

[spotty_dog]

Thanks Kris , but not only did I not repeat over and over that the original question hadn't been answered by any of the posts in the thread, but I also do not see where my point about gender equality and the need to call ALL unions marriage if ANY are called marriage was already addressed.

One of us is misreading. I'll be happy to claim the blame if it's me.

[PrincessFiona]

I'll take the blame...I think we all just were rehashing our own beliefs...I just like to hear myself talk sometimes Sorry for the misunderstanding.

kris

[HeartRN]

....And I'm still laughing at the fact that I used "Jo Blow" to begin the thread (without even noticing the hidden "meaning")

[Rapunzel]

sigh

Well, I, too, have many friends with same-gender attraction (including my best friend in high school). However, I do believe that marriage as defined throughout human society is a social contract between a man and a woman. I think it is a dangerous thing to tinker with the basic functioning unit of society (being the family of a man and woman and any children they might have). Yes, I do believe that in recent years laws have been passed and societal norms have been established that have done a wonderful job of destroying marriage. But, I don't believe in putting the last nail in the coffin of marriage just yet by changing the definition of marriage completely. The government has a social contract with the citizens of the nation (Hobbes and Locke anyone?). Marriage has historically been part of the "glue" that has held society together, thus government has an interest in marriage in order to help protect a society of citizens. Additionally, if one is interested in scientiific data, numerous studies show that children thrive best in a family environment where both a mother and father are present. I don't believe that the issue of the definition of marriage and the basic bonds of society has much to do with "equality of gender" (of course, in my belief system men can't even get into "heaven" unless they have a woman who chooses to be by their side - whom they have treated with respect). And, I don't think it has much to do with a boy being emotionally sensitive (ie such as my own son and my husband) or a girl being assertive (ie myself and my own daughters for example). In fact, my position is that both genders are equal in necessity as parents for a socially-advantageous family (socially as in human society functioning at its best over the course of known history).

I could go into more detail about why I believe as I do, but from past threads on this subject I will not so as to avoid the subject devolving into name-calling or personal attacks upon me or anyone who might agree with my position. So, I'll leave it at that and answer any private messages on the subject should anyone desire to ask me questions.

Jennifer

[PrincessFiona]

I don't think that you opinion is that controversial, Jennifer.

Yeah Jenn! I agree completely! Who cares who marries who??

[Auspicious]

Yeah, (even though I disagree with the conclusions) that's a nice contribution to the discussion. Good post.

[Meenah]

The last time we mixed religion and politics people were burned at the stake.

[Meenah]

Before anyone sends me a dissertation on the Salem Witch Trials "I think" they were actually hanged.
Luanne

[Auspicious]

Except for the one who was "pressed" to death.

[Vishenka69]

I personally don't care who marries whom, whether it's two men, two women or a man and a woman (not to mention transsexuals, cross dressers, gender changers, etc.). But then again being an atheist, "marriage" to me is a union of two people committed to each other for life.

Before anyone sends me a dissertation on the Salem Witch Trials "I think" they were actually hanged.

....except for the ones that turned themselves into cute little bunnies and are still hopping around the Midwest...






Ok....I will stay out of the debate forums since all I can think of are childish things to say....but in my mind(and at my house) they are HILARIOUS!!!

[SueC]

Matt, I think the debate forum could use more of your remarks--I know I get a chuckle out of them anyway!

[Meenah]

I think they are funny too!!!! Keep it up.
Luanne