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  • #16
    Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

    Originally posted by *Lily*
    I don't even know what PMR stands for other than Piles of Money and Relaxation!!!!
    I wouldn't go quite that far... I agree with the R part but from what I understand there's not so much money. But that's a perfect balance for us.

    Lily - let me know if your friend ends up in NJ - would love to meet some more people in the program and DH isn't so good at making friends (don't tell him I said that!

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    • #17
      Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

      Originally posted by peggyfromwastate
      As far as anesthesia, if the surg specialties are generally bad, not on the ROAD, and if you need an anesthesiologist to perform the surgery, why is anesthesia on the list in the first place? It seems like they would be about as busy as a surgeon? :huh:
      That's because there are usually several anesthesiologist for each surgeon. They can rotate during the surgery and don't have to follow up on their patients. They also have different mentality and aren't encouraged to do more cases, they can find reasons to cancel a late surgery (high blood pressure, etc.) and go home.

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      • #18
        Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

        I think the reason Ped Neuro isn't on the list is because it's a longer residency...isn't it two? or at least involves a fellowship....


        I think the ROAD specialties are all 4 years PG or less (is rads less than 4??) and no fellowships (of course you could add a fellowship but it isn't necessary to make good pay with decent hours.

        I think ENT is excluded because isn't PGY1 a gen surg year?? Same with Urology.... but I think both are considered the cush-est surgical subspecialties.
        Mom of 3, Veterinarian

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        • #19
          Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

          It looks like we've 86ed Onc and are going to stick with Internal Med. I'm fine with that, so long as we are talking private practice.
          Oh man, are you excited about that??? That means you just cut your training time in half!!!

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          • #20
            Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

            Originally posted by Michele
            I think the ROAD specialties are all 4 years PG or less (is rads less than 4??) and no fellowships (of course you could add a fellowship but it isn't necessary to make good pay with decent hours.
            That would definitely be a mark against Path, then. Ever since they cut the residency down to four years, fellowship is pretty well expected and you can pretty much count on 5-6 PGYs.
            Married to a hematopathologist seven years out of training.
            Raising three girls, 11, 9, and 2.

            “That was the thing about the world: it wasn't that things were harder than you thought they were going to be, it was that they were hard in ways that you didn't expect.”
            Lev Grossman, The Magician King

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            • #21
              Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

              The only reason I cannot endorse EM being included is the hours. Even though you may only work 160 hours or so a month, unless you are a director and set your own cushy hours, you are constantly switching shifts. Leads to quick burnout. Money wise its great for the hours, no complaints there but DH is in one of the top paying groups for EM in the country, so perhaps not typical.

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              • #22
                Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

                Originally posted by Vishenka69
                Originally posted by peggyfromwastate
                As far as anesthesia, if the surg specialties are generally bad, not on the ROAD, and if you need an anesthesiologist to perform the surgery, why is anesthesia on the list in the first place? It seems like they would be about as busy as a surgeon? :huh:
                That's because there are usually several anesthesiologist for each surgeon. They can rotate during the surgery and don't have to follow up on their patients. They also have different mentality and aren't encouraged to do more cases, they can find reasons to cancel a late surgery (high blood pressure, etc.) and go home.
                married to an anesthesia attending

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                • #23
                  Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

                  Is radiation oncology on the ROAD list? Maybe it is under rads, as rad onc is usually thrown in with rads? Seems that rad onc doesn't get a lot of press. DW and I didn't even consider it for her until right before apps were coming due.
                  Husband of an amazing female physician!

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                  • #24
                    Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

                    Originally posted by Vishenka69
                    Originally posted by peggyfromwastate
                    As far as anesthesia, if the surg specialties are generally bad, not on the ROAD, and if you need an anesthesiologist to perform the surgery, why is anesthesia on the list in the first place? It seems like they would be about as busy as a surgeon? :huh:
                    That's because there are usually several anesthesiologist for each surgeon. They can rotate during the surgery and don't have to follow up on their patients. They also have different mentality and aren't encouraged to do more cases, they can find reasons to cancel a late surgery (high blood pressure, etc.) and go home.

                    THis JUST happened to a surgery DH was in on yesterday. The anesthesiologist tried to convince the patient that he was starting to get a cold--- he was in there to get his nose operated on so that he could breathe better... It set back everyone over 1 hour to convince the patient that he was fit for surgery, and to get the anesthesiologist on board... She was "filling in"...
                    Peggy

                    Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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                    • #25
                      Re: So-called "Lifestyle Specialties"

                      Originally posted by Pollyanna
                      I truly think "lifestyle" specialties are relative. It all depends on the doc involved and the lifestyle you are hoping to carve out for your family.
                      ITA with Tara! We feel like we've hit the jackpot with EM, but it isn't for everyone.

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