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  • Back in the day when we started this journey with dd1, they had elaborate prize setups for good behavior. You could earn points (or toy dollars) for good behavior. There was always done color coding system as well. But you were able to earn the "berry points" from any staff member. There was a "berry store" where you could trade in your points for prizes. That became a headache to run (volunteers after school) and by the time dd was in 4th grade kids just bought the prizes they wanted with real cash from home. I don't know how that happened.

    Prize buckets in class are motivating (they had them for my 1st and 2nd graders) but even with prizes, in a school that uses the color code it's usually tied to your color.

    Really it's the luck of the draw if you get a teacher who can work with the color code (it's usually a requirement for schools who do use it) and still meet the needs of your child.

    My dd2 had major focus issues in 1st grade. She would have always been on yellow or red with a strict teacher. Her amazing veteran teacher set up a spot for dd to go to when she needed a break and to recharge her battery. Dd would go there, scribble or color furiously for 5 min, then be able to go back to work. I'm so thankful she had a teacher who understood her needs and respected that not all young kids can sit still for 6 hours with little breaks here and there.

    Cheri is there anything you could suggest to your teacher for A to have as an outlet when she feels like she must chat? Or do whatever she's being colored down for? Can you think of any relatively non-distracting activity that she could do when she needs to recharge?

    Hugs----- this stuff is so frustrating.
    Peggy

    Aloha from paradise! And the other side of training!

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    • Well I continue to torture myself with this! I toured the expensive private school today as one of their fall/application process tours. I'm pretty sure I was the only first grade parent in our group, the others were looking at K for next year but I also got a Pre-K packet for R. The application fee is $40, I think I'm going to go ahead and apply for both of them. The process really picks up in mid-November when there is more paperwork to fill out, a teacher reference, etc. To be honest I'm a little concerned with having A's current teacher fill out a teacher reference on her, I don't think she really likes her, I overheard her say yesterday "I'm all about the academics" and while I know A is doing very well in that area its not the area that concerns me as much as the others. You should see the classrooms at this other school, they're crazy big - we got to see a few classes in session (18-20 kids/2 teachers), play areas, etc. the list is exhaustive as to how these rooms/facilities are better then what they have now.

      Teacher conferences for A are at the end of October, I really wish DH was going to be able to go because I'd like to get his assessment on this teacher/situation but he's going to be out of town and it was scheduled before we had the dates. I'm really interested to see how that conference goes, I just feel like I'm being patronized when she speaks to me. I asked A on the way to school this morning if she was happy at school and there was a long pause before she answered me and then when she did she said, "Go [school] [mascot]!" Which I thought was an odd response. If conferences go poorly or I continue to get a negative reaction from A, I'm half tempted to call the private school and see if they do mid-year admissions...but I'm not sure more change/turmoil is the solution...

      I volunteered at recess/lunch yesterday and watched A not really play with anyone, most of the kids seemed to be paired or grouped off and doing stuff with someone, she just kind of bounced back and forth and did her own thing. Which I guess isn't all that bad, I just wonder if she's really growing more then the STACK of worksheets she brings home each day.

      R is another issue - I LOVED A's preschool teacher last year and if R stays at his current preschool that is who he would most likely have - however its only 3 days/week 2.5 hours and he's so ready to be challenged more then that.

      So here is a question (after all of my rambling) we have access to 2 current parents - we can e-mail them, meet them for coffee, etc. If you could meet with them what would you ask them?

      UGH - I think I'll go torture myself some more!
      Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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      • I just feel like I'm being patronized when she speaks to me.
        This is a HUGE pet peeve of mine and would not fly. As a former professional, would you speak down to your clients or colleagues? I went out of my way to make sure that I didn't overwhelm someone with "legalese" from an imperious position.

        If you could meet with them what would you ask them?
        I would ask how the school has accommodated their goals for their children, what the general school vibe is, and why they decided on that school. But the single best question to ask after all of the positive is, "What don't you like about it?" and "What would you change?"

        Good luck. This stuff isn't easy.
        In my dreams I run with the Kenyans.

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        • Ask them if they would give the school a green, yellow or red. I would ask about teacher personalities, communications, extras (our school offers in school piano lessons, after school art classes, clubs, etc). Reading and math programs.
          -Ladybug

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          • That is a good question Kelly. Ladybug, they pretty much covered all of that at the tour today - I was happy with what I heard on those. Both of these parents also spoke about their experiences, their different kids, etc. why they chose the school, etc.
            Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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            • I might ask how they feel (generally) about worksheets. . I love that our teachers up to this point (other than for pre-K in IL) have similar anti-worksheet sentiments. I'd also ask about community/parental involvement. I'm sorry it's not a great fit,but kids are resilient and maybe it's better that she isn't totally into the school since you're not thrilled with it.


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              Wife to EP, just trying to keep up with my FOUR busy kids!

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              • Cheri, change your teacher conference date. Teachers will accommodate parents especially if one will be out of town. Just tell her that it's very important to your husband to be at the conference and ask to have it outside the regular times.

                I would ask why people leave the other private school. I know, it seems counter productive but it's important to know what chases people away as much as it is to know what brings them to the school. No school is perfect and the one that looks great to you is likely loathed by some parents just as the school A is currently attended is likely loved by many parents. It's really so child dependent.

                Can you take A on a tour of the school? She might tell you she is interested in changing. Especially if she is going to go there next year anyway.

                Good luck and keep us posted!
                Tara
                Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                • Also, just throwing this out there, if your husband truly cannot make it to the conference, bring another buddy whose opinion you trust. I'd be willing to go if you think I could help.

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                  • So A is supposed to have her visit day tomorrow because she doesn't have school. Because of it she will be an hour late to a 3 hour birthday party that ALL of her friends will be at. She went to bed crying that she didn't want to go and that she wanted me to stay with her even though we had just finished talking about how much fun she had there this summer. I don't know what to do - do I make her go if she's still upset in the morning? I don't want her to cry when I leave tomorrow, separation has NEVER been an issue for her and I don't want this to cloud their judgement of her. Of course DH is out to dinner at some fancy restaurant in SF with two other surgeons that he needs to know so I can't ask him and by the time he gets back to the hotel I'll be in bed.

                    What do I do??
                    Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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                    • How does she know she will be late to the party? Can you frame going to the party as a reward for being nice during the visit? Suggest she'll have even more fun because she's going to two events?

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                      • Because she's been talking about this party all week, she knows it starts at 1 and then I told her I wasn't picking her up until 2.

                        I don't think she really cares and/or wants to go to the school so I don't think she'll see it as a plus that she "gets" to do both.
                        Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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                        • Originally posted by SuzySunshine View Post
                          Because she's been talking about this party all week, she knows it starts at 1 and then I told her I wasn't picking her up until 2.

                          I don't think she really cares and/or wants to go to the school so I don't think she'll see it as a plus that she "gets" to do both.
                          She could be at the worst school on the planet but if she has friends and feels comfortable she won't want to change. That is a decision you and your hubby will have to make with very little input from A.

                          I think a visit day for a kindergarten child where the parent leaves is unnecessary. A tour and visit to the classroom is more than enough. I wouldn't force the issue. I wouldn't even really discuss it much with her until closer to summer.
                          Tara
                          Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                          • Unfortunately the visit is a required part of their process for all kids entering first grade and up. They also use it as an assessment rather then doing hard core testing for admissions.
                            Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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                            • Originally posted by SuzySunshine View Post
                              Unfortunately the visit is a required part of their process for all kids entering first grade and up. They also use it as an assessment rather then doing hard core testing for admissions.
                              Well poop!

                              If it was me and I was serious about the new school I would call them ASAP in the morning, apologize profusely, and ask if you can reschedule (you can say A isn't feeling up to it today or some other excuse). Then tell A not to worry, you've rescheduled the school visit so she can go to the whole party today and visit on another day. You just want this to be a positive experience and my guess us that all she can think about is the party.

                              Don't worry about rescheduling on a day she has off, just pull her from her school for that day.

                              Either way, good luck tomorrow!!
                              Tara
                              Married 20 years to MD/PhD in year 3 of MFM fellowship. SAHM to five wonderful children (#6 due in August), a sweet GSD named Bella, a black lab named Toby, and 1 guinea pig.

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                              • I didn't make her go - if she's going to whine and be pouty and not be herself all day what is the point? But I will reschedule her and she will go. UGH I've been manipulated by a 5 year old!
                                Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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