ok, you asked for it... :)

[Rapunzel]

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Oh, I'm about to be completely sacrilegious here:

It's Jenn the Almighty come to save San Antonio!!!

Sorry.

I've probably just dug an even deeper pit for myself.

What in the world ARE your spiritual beliefs?! Rapunzel, you need an "I'm just being funny, so please don't take what I say seriously" smiley.

Huh. I'll explain what just happened:

I stated that I think social liberalism dovetails nicely with evangelical Christianity. I stated that social liberalism sees the government as a "messiah" of sorts. Then, Jenn (who works for a social agency) states that she has been "saving" people all day. And, I put the two together by (yes, jokingly) saying she is Jenn the Almighty.

Honestly, you guys didn't read it all and see that?

And, yeah, usually I'm being silly. If I state that I'm having a bad day, I'm grumpy, or something else is very wrong in life then I'm generally not being silly. But, my default is either straight-forward or silly. And, I enjoy word play, analogies, and irony.

[Rapunzel]

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Oh gosh!

No!

I was trying to be "punny".

Oh man.

I'm sorry, Jenn!

I was so not trying to be mean or anything!

sigh

This is one of those times when voice really matters and I'm just typing....

Anyway, Jenn, I'm so sorry.

[Meenah]

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I voted completely separate. In my perfect world this is how I would hope to be. In reality, I'm sure my beliefs political and spiritual influence one another.

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Thanks, everyone, for posting so many different views. That's why I love the "Debates" forum.

If I do vote, I will have to vote for Obama... When we get to Congress, I will likely vote for Republicans because I want to temper what Obama can do.

That is a solution to the bipartisan problem that I can honestly say I hadn't considered before! Hmm... will have to chew on that one... :mmm: ( <-- what I am literally doing up at this hour)

[Deebs]

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I haven't made any secret of the fact that I consider myself to be a liberal Catholic. (Among liberal Catholics, this is called being a "social justice" type. )

This is what DH and I are. We call it "Reform Catholic" (just like my in-laws practice Reform Judaism). While we are Catholic, there are many tenants of the Catholic church that we disagree with. I think it's hard to be a scientist and agree with many religious beliefs.

I don't know if that is why or not, but I really feel separation of church and state is of huge importance in our country, and so I personally try to separate my religion from politics as much as possible. Because my religion taught me many of my values, I think it is probably impossible for me to separate completely, though.

[Vishenka69]

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In my perfect world religion (of any kind) and politics do not mix under any circumstances, AT ALL. Hence, I don't see any problems in keeping all kinds of abortions legal or gay marriage.