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  • #61
    Re: Sarah Palin?

    I think the Dems should think out their response strategy very carefully. This is a legitimate point: she's got executive branch experience as Gov but has no international experience. This would be a good ground to attack her on. BUT, how do you walk that line when your Pres candidate is a one-term US Sen? You could make the argument that he has more experience given his State legislature position, but that seems comparatively weak. You can point out his trips overseas as a Sen and a candidate--but these aren't really "foreign policy" experience (especially when compare to Biden). So how do you undercut her on the experience issue without simultaneously undercutting your own Pres candidate? It will be a hard line to walk.

    They might do better by attacking her substantive differences: she's a big Second Amendment proponent and very pro-life. She's a conservative. If she were Pres, her policies and judicial appointments would reflect that. Maybe the Dems should play that angle: regardless of how much experience she does/doesn't have, her principles aren't what we, as liberals, are looking for.
    Obama hasn't even finished a term as a Illinois state senator and IF elected won't finish a term as US Senator. How much good has he done the state of Illinois, especially now that he has been campaigning? I would have more respect for him in 4 years if he actually finished a job that he started. I also have a friend who went to high school with Barack Obama and the man is far from humble. Aside from the fact that I disagree with him, I am having a hard time voting for someone with an ego problem- flying around in a jet called "O-Force One" with "The President" on his seat.

    As a side note---- I am very undecided between Bob Barr and McCain. I will not be voting for Obama simply because I think the free market society and capitalism works, and if he is elected he would take that away and implement communist and socialist values, not to mention I disagree with him on so many levels. I am a registered independent, and not "loyal" to any party, tend to lean more Libertarian than anything.

    All politics aside, how cool is that a woman is on a ticket?!

    A little bit more about Sarah Palin- the previous governor of Alaska bought a private jet, when she got into office, she auctioned the jet and took the 2.1 million proceeds and appropriated them to the state of Alaska. She pushed for an ethics bill and shelved pork barrel projects. She ended a bridge project based on the premise that Alaska should be self-sufficient and instead of relying on the federal government. Palin also appointed independents and dems for positions on her staff. As Mayor, she campaigned on cutting property taxes and did so successfully as much as 60%.

    About the experience thing- Obama can't say he has any more experience, plus he picked a veep that is a Washington insider and has been in politics for 30 years, something that Obama said he wouldn't be your typical politician, wouldn't pander to special interest or Washington insiders. Goes to show he is no different than any of the slime "working" for our country in DC.
    Gas, and 4 kids

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    • #62
      Re: Sarah Palin?

      Originally posted by oceanchild
      It's not the party, Kris. It's the internet. Scary people hang out here.
      I know. You should see the website I came across for medical spouses... :>
      ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
      ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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      • #63
        Re: Sarah Palin?

        Here are some interesting interview clips.

        http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190
        Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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        • #64
          Re: Sarah Palin?

          Ok, now I'm seeing/hearing the comments about Palin re: not being qualified because she's a mom and would just have too much to handle, etc.

          This stuff has totally deflated my joy. I can't believe people think this way. And it's mostly WOMEN I'm hearing this from!! And, to be honest, it's not the conservative "SAHM nazis" who seem to be voicing this: it's people who say, with happy glee, that McCain just tanked his campaign with the choice--as people will come around to see that she could never do the job, given all her family obligations.

          This is completely depressing. Will she be able to pack all their lunches and change all their diapers every day as VP? Probably not. But her hubbie will help and they will be able to get a nanny to pitch in. They can make it work. Anyone who is a full-time WOTH mom knows: you can't do it all, but you can make it all work. She certainly does it as the chief executive of a whole state!

          I am really disappointed and down about this.

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          • #65
            Re: Sarah Palin?

            Originally posted by DCJenn
            What intrigues me is also the disability issue w/ the baby. I'll be interested to see how she handles this incredibly difficult next 60+ days. I know that for ME, I couldn't do that much travel with an infant. Obviously, she has help though.

            At least should she be elected, I'd hope that we'd see some $ thrown to early intervention programs for kids with disabilities.

            Jenn
            This made me hopeful for early intervention, I could use some gov support in my career - one of the very high turnover. Families NEED more resources, and EARLIER that are PAID for.

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            • #66
              Re: Sarah Palin?

              Wow 7 civil pages in one day - is this a new record?

              I think its going to be very interesting, I still don't have an opinion of my own.
              Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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              • #67
                Re: Sarah Palin?

                With Piper and Willow, you'd think she was a Charmed and Buffy fan. That would be a positive point. She doesn't have two sisters does she? And a cop friend? Her husband's name isn't Cole, right? *sigh* I need to get out my Charmed DVDs again.
                Angie
                Gyn-Onc fellowship survivor - 10 years out of the training years; reluctant suburbanite
                Mom to DS (18) and DD (15) (and many many pets)

                "Where are we going - and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

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                • #68
                  Re: Sarah Palin?

                  Originally posted by GrayMatterWife
                  Ok, now I'm seeing/hearing the comments about Palin re: not being qualified because she's a mom and would just have too much to handle, etc.

                  This stuff has totally deflated my joy. I can't believe people think this way. And it's mostly WOMEN I'm hearing this from!! And, to be honest, it's not the conservative "SAHM nazis" who seem to be voicing this: it's people who say, with happy glee, that McCain just tanked his campaign with the choice--as people will come around to see that she could never do the job, given all her family obligations.

                  This is completely depressing. Will she be able to pack all their lunches and change all their diapers every day as VP? Probably not. But her hubbie will help and they will be able to get a nanny to pitch in. They can make it work. Anyone who is a full-time WOTH mom knows: you can't do it all, but you can make it all work. She certainly does it as the chief executive of a whole state!

                  I am really disappointed and down about this.
                  ITA. You know, Angelina Jolie and lots of other movie stars employee TONS of nannies for their kids and no one thinks that is wrong so that they can go to work.... making fricken movies! But, a driven, smart woman cannot go to work as a public servant? :huh:
                  Wife to a Urologist. Mom to DD 15, DD 12, DD 2, and DD 1!
                  Native Jayhawk, paroled from GA... settling in Minnesota!

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                  • #69
                    Re: Sarah Palin?

                    I'm also disappointed by the way the media is emphasizing her high school basketball / beauty queen stuff. I have no need to know her nickname on the court, thank you.

                    I will say (and you can all berate me if you want) that I was a bit taken aback by the thought of her returning to work 3 days post-partum - especially with a special needs child. I have no issue with the idea of working moms - NONE. I've never been a career girl, but kudos to those who are. Have nannies if you want - be all you want to be / to each their own, etc. But the majority of women where you hear about super-fast returns to work, etc. are ones who would be at risk of losing their JOB if they take the time due them. Downs babies have a myriad of health issues that need to be ruled out, etc. - and I just find it ... odd that she'd (or the dad, for that matter) made it a point to return to work that quickly when no one was going to get fired over it. Would it be a deal breaker for me as far as voting for her? No - I'd cite the anti-choice, lifetime NRA, etc. stances over that. I do applaud her for nixing the "bridge to nowhere" though.

                    I do think it's largely a calculated move on McCain's part to get the women who wanted HRC as the nom and aren't worried about the politics.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Sarah Palin?

                      Originally posted by Pollyanna
                      I'm waiting for the debate as to whether she is breast or bottle feeding. You know it's coming with that little baby.


                      i just about spewed my drink, tara. you're so right!!! i can hear it now...
                      ~shacked up with an ob/gyn~

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                      • #71
                        Re: Sarah Palin?

                        What do you make of this?

                        http://www.adn.com/polarbears/story/413710.html
                        married to an anesthesia attending

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                        • #72
                          Re: Sarah Palin?

                          I will say (and you can all berate me if you want) that I was a bit taken aback by the thought of her returning to work 3 days post-partum - especially with a special needs child. I have no issue with the idea of working moms - NONE. I've never been a career girl, but kudos to those who are. Have nannies if you want - be all you want to be / to each their own, etc. But the majority of women where you hear about super-fast returns to work, etc. are ones who would be at risk of losing their JOB if they take the time due them. Downs babies have a myriad of health issues that need to be ruled out, etc. - and I just find it ... odd that she'd (or the dad, for that matter) made it a point to return to work that quickly when no one was going to get fired over it.

                          I completely agree with you on the whole 3 days post partum thing. I have been on both sides of the fence, I've been a full time WOTH mom and a SAHM so I don't judge women for their work choices, but I was taken aback by the 3 day thing especially with a special needs child.
                          Charlene~Married to an attending Ophtho Mudphud and Mom to 2 daughters

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                          • #73
                            Re: Sarah Palin?

                            Originally posted by Pollyanna
                            We know plenty of men that go back to work in less than three days. If her husband was with the baby why is it questionable that she went back? Being governor is not exactly a 9 to 5 job.
                            I was back to work on the day I was discharged with DS, but it was on a modified schedule. I worked primarily from home and after-hours at the office. I'm sure her schedule was modified, too, and that she was helped with a nanny or her husband. I mean, she is the Governor.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Sarah Palin?

                              I know many women who I worked with who were back at the research bench 3 days later. It's not something that I personally could have done...but that doesn't mean that it is wrong in any way.

                              ETA: If she had taken several weeks off, she would have been criticized for that too. Maybe what was going on in AK necessitated coming back earlier too. Who knows.
                              ~Mom of 5, married to an ID doc
                              ~A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss

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                              • #75
                                Re: Sarah Palin?

                                Only she and her husband should make the decision when for her to go back to work. We shouldn't be concerned. If she was a guy it would be a non-issue. Hopefully the party of change and understanding won't try to judge a career woman.
                                Husband of an amazing female physician!

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