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**SuzySunshine** · 08-31-2008, 05:04 PM

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Really? Some people really need to get real jobs or better hobbies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_122790.html Follow the link the read the ridiculous comments.

DailyKos Embraces The Palin 'Fake Pregnancy' Rumor But Rejects The Edwards Story

Its the wackiest rumor about Sarah Palin or any other politician so far this election. It's making it's way all through the internet. And of course it came from DailyKos.

Let's hear from noted reporter ArcXIX, following up on story by the widely respected Inky99...

Well, Sarah, I'm calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better.

Daily Kos: Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video]

The whole story is based on an insulting view of fundamentalist Christians; that they'd be so freaked out by a teenage pregnancy that they'd have the Governor -- the most highly visible and public women in the small fishbowl of Alaska -- fake a pregnancy to cover up the sins her of daughter Bristol.

That diary got 'rec'd' -- voted as one of the 'Best Of' on DailyKos. The diary is uncited, breathless, and spins a story that's totally far-fetched. Without going through the whole hot mess point by point, I'll mention that no doctors, nurses, hospital workers or other patients have come forward to say anything was amiss. Plus, there's this picture.

The irony for me, of course, is that despite making over fifty short political videos with a clear progressive point of view, I was banned on DailyKos for saying that it seemed reasonable that John Edwards was seen at the Beverly Hilton late at night.

To be sure, some on DailyKos pointed up the numerous problems with the Palin story. But 'the community' in large part embraced it and it's part of a trend...

The election hasn't even been won yet and there's already a liberal hubris developing. Progressive standard bearers such as DailyKos and Keith Olbermann have been showing signs lately of a nasty tendency towards stifling dissenting opinions and promoting the sort of crazy rumors usually associated with the right then the reality based community.

It's not effective, it's not progressive, and it's not a good or accurate reflection on Barack Obama or the Democratic party.

Update: There's a weird pivot on this story. What started as 'she wasn't pregnant!' is morphing into Palin getting attacked for her choice (after talking to her doctor) to go back home to Alaska after her amniotic fluid began a small leak.

Two points. First, nothing bad happened - her judgment in this case worked out just fine. In fact, the baby had to be induced. Second, people LOVE to spout off about other women's birth choices.

Another one...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...d-pregnancy-ga

Stooping to Lowest Level: Democratic Claim of Palin's 'Faked Pregnancy' Gaining Steam
By Warner Todd Huston
Created 2008-08-31 01:17

**Update: TV's Alan Colmes Says Palin's Neglect Caused Down's Syndrome Birth Stress!**

**Update #2 Below the Fold- Pregnancy Confirmed**

As I reported earlier [1], the scurrilous claim that McCain vice presidential pick Governor Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy with a Down's Syndrome child is beginning to spread among the lowest of the nutrooters. Now, the unhinged, smear site DemocraticUnderground.com [2] has boosted this lie to their front pages. Naturally, since these hate sites feed into each other, the spurious source of the DU story is another DailyKos story like the one I earlier reported upon.

Of course, this whole meme is nothing but a lie. Are we expected to believe an entire state, its hospitals, doctors and media establishment helped cover up this pregnancy story? And they all did this for a Republican, to boot? It makes little logical sense to believe a word of this black helicopter conspiracy theory. Next thing we know, the Kossacks and DUers are going to expect us to believe that Big Foot and some gray aliens were the attendants at the birth!

But, here is the thing. This hateful story about the birth of a child with Down's Syndrome is exactly the sort of lowest, gutter ideas that float through the empty space in the voluminous heads of our friends at the lowest depths of the Democratic Party and the lefty movement. There are some sick, sick people over there and stories like this prove it.

Pile this on top of the low blow from TV's Alan Colmes who claims that Palin didn't practice proper prenatal care before she had the baby with Down's Syndrome, blaming the Mother for her disabled child. Well, the lefties don't know a low road they won't take. (Colmes' site has crashed right now, but this is the address if it ever comes back: http://www.alan.com/2008/08/30/did-pali ... atal-care/ [3])

Now, let's take a looks at some of the replies on the DU garbage thread:

WARNING -- As is common on leftist sites, some of the language that follows is profane. (Not to mention filled with bad spelling and grammar)

bobd0: It's not an "accusation" and it isn't "awful" Teenagers get pregnant. It isn't awful. It just happens. It happens all the time. I'm not making accusations. I'm just looking at all the angles. You know, like those Republicans do. Look at that "breakaway" sect of Mormons in Texas. Who would have thought that sort of thing was going on in their backyard? And we're talking Alaska here. Those long winters must get very boring. And Sarah is all for drilling in Alaska

DaLittle Kitty: That IS a little bastard christian grandchild... WITHOUT QUESTION! IGHT! It's Da LYING STUPID! Da LYING!!! AllCFhristianed Out +LY'N DER ASS OFF! Why Was this same standard of which you speak NOT in play re: JOHN EDWARDS? The bulshite is unbelievable!!!!

Demeter: It Doesn't Have to Be an Issue--Just a Rumor or Legend on the Internet. Like Obama is a Muslim==tit for tat.

enough already: Screw 'em all! It's time we started fighting back. We always show up at gun fights with knives. Knock Palin's teeth out on this one. No backing down, no mercy.

marylanddem: I think this IS a an important issue. And commend Daily Kos for focusing on it. Fuck Sarah Palin if she's the lying hypocrite she appears to be, the sooner this shit hits the fan the better.

progressivebydesign: How can she be the arbiter of all things HOLY and PURE if her daughter gets knocked up?? How would that play in Palin's little circle of believers? Guess that shoots her 'abstinence only' stance, doesn't it?

scarface2004: fuck that right wing piece of shit..if it belonged to her daughter and she covered it up to avoid embarrasment then fuck that piece of shit! republicans have asked for this...and now they are gonna get it. this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND goddammit, not mr rogers neighborhood!! its time to fuck them over with every rumor speculation bald faced lie whatever. reap what you sow assholes!!

Well, there's more, of course, many more that are even more profane. Granted there are a few somewhat saner souls saying that they should leave this horrible story alone. But they are being widely abused and ignored.

This is the sort of hate that has developed into a pathology for the far left, folks. As distasteful as it is, we need to be aware of how low they will go.

Update #2- One Woman's Eyewitness Account of Pregnant Palin

All the speculation on whether Governor Palin was pregnant is easily put to rest by the eyewitness account of Elizabeth Eubanks [4] from April 29 of this year. Eubanks was in an airport in Fairbanks waiting for a flight when she unexpectedly saw Governor Palin in the airport also waiting for a flight.

Eubanks reports that she found Palin to be a wonderful person.

Of course I had to check out the “Hottest Governor in the US” and quickly turned to see her pregnant (she has since had her baby) with bags and daughter in tote. Then it struck me as odd. Why is the Governor of Alaska in the airport and preparing to get onto my commercial flight?

Well, why WAS the Governor waiting for a commercial flight? It seems as a cost cutting measure, Governor Palin sold the state jet on Ebay [5] for 2.1 million dollars.

So, not only was she pregnant despite the claim of the jackasses in the Democratic Party, but we get to see another example of how fiscally responsible she is! Go ON with your bad self, Governor Palin!

**rainbabies** · 08-31-2008, 05:06 PM

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me, cheri?

**SuzySunshine** · 08-31-2008, 05:11 PM

Re: sarah palin part deux

No, no of course not you - the idiots that come up with these stories in the first place. And the idiots in the press that fill the need to repeat them just b/c she's been named as VP. As this link shows a local reporter investigated the story to death shortly after Trig was born and found it baseless. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...865/169/579531

The final word on Sarah Palin's fifth child
by PsiFighter37
Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 05:54:23 PM PDT

As has been noted in several diaries here at dKos (yes, I still read as much as I can here, despite my lack of posting), the circumstances around the birth of Sarah Palin's fifth child are particularly suspicious. This link from Reddit gives the basic rundown on the rumors. Given the photographic showing what seems to be a very not-pregnant Palin earlier this year, combined with the somewhat dangerous-sounding report that she flew back to Alaska after her water broke, it would seem that there is some strong circumstantial evidence that she was covering for her now-17 year old daughter Bristol - who was reportedly out of school a long time due to mononucleosis.

So I decided to email Gregg Erickson, the reporter from the Anchorage Daily News who hosted a chat at the Washington Post's website earlier today. I asked about the rumors, including the circumstantial evidence that seems to support a cover-up.

* PsiFighter37's diary :: ::
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Here's his response:

The press did a pretty good job of following up on the substitute child rumor. It proved baseless.

I'm no obstetrics expert, but flying home - while having contractions - seems dangerous to me as well. Perhaps a real expert could opine on that. You have to say this about her: she's tough.

Given that Erickson was blunt (if not a bit unimpressed) in his evaluation of Palin during the chat this afternoon, I think it's fair to say that if he says the rumors were investigated and debunked, that should be that. Let's focus on the other issues that make Sarah Palin a bad choice for VP hereon out - not a story that makes for a good rumor but has no basis in reality.

**rainbabies** · 08-31-2008, 05:16 PM

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okay. i was starting to feel nauseated for a second that i pissed you off.

**PrincessFiona** · 08-31-2008, 05:32 PM

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So sad...the dems are totally pushing this memo after having such a heart attack over the Larry Sinclair, Obama is a Muslim crap.

This was determined to be bunk a long time ago. It makes me feel sorry for her teenage daughter who probably will develop anorexia or something now.

Kris

**GrayMatterWife** · 08-31-2008, 05:39 PM

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No comment other than to note: so, this is how we treat women running for office. Challenge them on the very thing that makes them a woman. Lovely. Ranks right up there with people who call HRC a lesbian or some other de-sexualized term.

**rainbabies** · 08-31-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by PrincessFiona

This was determined to be bunk a long time ago. It makes me feel sorry for her teenage daughter who probably will develop anorexia or something now.

the pictures they're showing of her...she is not preggers. she looks normal to me. and they say that she is obviously sucking in her stomach and pushing out her chest. um...i do that too. anything to help myself stand taller and thinner.

**Sheherezade** · 08-31-2008, 08:32 PM

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Yeah....I read this yesterday too. I admit it is juicy.

(I didn't stop reading the minute I sensed the smear campaign - I admit. ) I think the whole story about her last pregnancy is just surreal to me. Not showing at seven months on your fifth child? I thought you showed at 2 mos with your second.

The extra toughness with the return to work at three days (debunked right here!) and the contractions on the return flight from Texas?

Daughter out of school for months at the same time?

It's the same as the Katie Holmes pregnancy. You can make a story if you'd like. Not true, I'm sure. When people try to keep pregnancy and birth quiet and they live in the public eye, we find them suspicious. I'm sorry for the daughter too. She didn't ask for this at all. Palin probably expects it. If she didn't before, she's going to get a whole load of smear now. We are not kind to our candidates, male or female. Fair game. What a country, huh?

Join Date: Nov 2024 · 08-31-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by PrincessFiona

So sad...the dems are totally pushing this memo after having such a heart attack over the Larry Sinclair, Obama is a Muslim crap.

Which dems? Are there ANY legitimate representatives who are repeating this story? As Lily or Julia said so correctly a few days ago - the internet is FILLED with wackos (present company excluded, of course), and they write all sorts of stuff. I'd hate to see it attributed to a specific party, but rather some "fringe group" sounds more appropriate.

And another blow for Palin -- her MIL has been quoted as saying "I don't know what she brings to the ticket." That will be a fun Thanksgiving dinner.

**Sheherezade** · 08-31-2008, 08:35 PM

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ITA, Jenn. I think Obama's initial reaction to the Palin addition to the ticket has been reserved. No smear at all. He's certainly not putting her shots in Vogue magazine up next to pictures of Paris Hilton and Britney and saying her meteoric rise to power is "all charm learned in beauty pageants".

I'd be very surprised if I did see anything about this on a reputable Dem site -- beyond mentioning the rumor in the same manner it has been mentioned here.

**DCJenn** · 08-31-2008, 08:37 PM

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Really? Sounds like we have a contender for the MIL smackdown. We can bring her in as a courtesy.

Why would you say that out loud? (Of course, I agree with Nasty MIL but jeez, woman- keep it to yourself!)

Jenn

**PrincessFiona** · 08-31-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by DCJenn

Really? Sounds like we have a contender for the MIL smackdown. We can bring her in as a courtesy.

Why would you say that out loud? (Of course, I agree with Nasty MIL but jeez, woman- keep it to yourself!)

Jenn

That's what I thought too...LOL...Fire up the bus.

FYI..sorry for my comment generalizing about dems...I was referring to dem blogs, not the actual candidates themselves.

**GrayMatterWife** · 08-31-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by Jane

And another blow for Palin -- her MIL has been quoted as saying "I don't know what she brings to the ticket." That will be a fun Thanksgiving dinner.

Another reason to vote FOR her. Her MIL doesn't like her. A woman I can trust.

Seriously, my MIL would say the same thing about me. She has yet to see that I bring any value to our marriage...

**GrayMatterWife** · 08-31-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Sheherezade

I'd be very surprised if I did see anything about this on a reputable Dem site -- beyond mentioning the rumor in the same manner it has been mentioned here.

I would be shocked if this kind of thing ended up on any website sanctioned by the Dems. Of course, not every liberal/left-leaning website that supports Dem candidates is approved of by the DNC--it would not be fair to hold the DNC accountable for stuff posted beyond their control. However, that being said, I was surprised to hear that this was posted on the DailyKos. It is totally leftie, of course, but it is pretty mainstreamed. Not some no-name, who?, internet blog site.

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