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  • #46
    My experience with facebook has been a process of stumbling through the society pages of the digital age and learning what is proper netiquette. Seeing as we're all going through this at the same time and it's all new and made available to us and constantly updating as technology rapidly advances. There isn't one governing body over the open sewer that is the internet where you can find anything you want and a lot of what you don't want.

    Facebook has made me question the nature of relationships and reflect on my own relationship with others. When I was taking care of my infant niece I spent 12 hours a day with her five days a week so I'd post pictures on facebook to share with family. Nothing inappropriate but then I was asked to take them down by my brother but I knew it was really his wife's request. His explanation was that sexual predators would get them and learn her name and track them down. An infant baby on her mat playing, really? Never the less I found myself offended but took them down only to find the parents do the very same thing I did and post pictures of their child on the internet. It was awkward for me because while I know I am not her parent I am her Aunt and I spent the vast majority of time with her during her early development and it was ok for them to do it but not for me? As if I would have sexual predators as my facebook friends and they wouldn't?

    Other times I would have ex-boyfriends requesting to friend me and I'd deny them. They can clearly see I'm married and it's really not appropriate. But after one friend request from them would come another and I got tired of that. There are also the people that you know but maybe don't really like and they request you and what do you do? Then there are those people you request to friend and think everything is fine with them and they don't accept you or reject you. How are you supposed to take that message? How do you take the rejection requests? We're friends but not really friends?

    There are people I friend and discover I really like them and then there are people I find to discover they are really dramatic. I also found facebook good for networking. If I needed notes for a class I missed I could get them from a classmate. If I wanted to get to know someone more but didn't have the time or the means to hang out with them there was facebook. When I was half a world apart from my spouse and going through the long distance there were friends for that. There were friends for the immigration process and friends for the egyptian military process. There were book club friends and groups I'd moderate online. I made a lot of mistake and probably every mistake you all named here except for the posting my uterus or vagina online. I do find it a bit gross to see a persons ultrasound as well but then again I might feel differently about it if it was my own. I haven't been there and done that yet so how would I know how I'd feel about sharing it with others when it came to that point in my life?

    I've connected with friends from long ago. I've watched my little cousins blossom in what seemed like over night, grow up, get married and start a family of their own and I couldn't have done that without facebook. In a way it connected me to members of my extended family that I didn't know too well but always wanted to. I agree about all the body pictures of the young and the restless. I even recall my own phase and sit back with amusement as I see the next generation go through it. Sometimes I want to get involved and tell others to cover up but then I find it's easy to get sucked into other people's dramas and maybe a light arms length touch is appropriate.

    When I got a text message there was a terrible car accident on the eve of Christmas and my husband was involved it was agonizing so I reached out on facebook to anyone who spoke Arabic to make three way calls for me to know if my husband was dead or alive in the hospital. I was in 24 hours of pure pain in not knowing because we couldn't contact anyone. They bury their dead in 24 hours over there. In separate calls I was told my husband was dead. Then I was told a friend was dead. Then I was told my husband was dead again. Finally we reached my husbands family and who comes to the phone but my grieving husband because his oldest and best friend had died in the car accident. I was relieved because there was some confusion because they are both doctors with the same name but I was also devastated because I also lost a very good friend in the car accident. Without facebook I would have been in the black hole of not knowing for some time as my husband grieved the loss of his dear friend.

    I went off facebook thinking it had become to personal and too much, time consuming, over exposing. I had to answer to too many people who now had an expectation of you making your life public and I had unknowingly danced my way into a public persona online and massed a following if I wanted it or not. You take the good with the bad.

    Now with my work it's a requirement to have it because it's become a tool that has reached it's tentacles into many facets of our lives. I've hurt people by defriending them and then after I get over what ever it was that was my reasoning for defriending them I recognize that and regret hurting someone unwittingly. I've been hurt by being defriended too and by not being accepted as a friend. It takes me aback when I realize the importance that we put into it. Online friends are real friends too and I am sorry to have lost some of them a long the way of my journey in my bumbling through the digital life as I figure it out as I go along. Thankfully most of them are rather forgiving. With a sort of public personality I'm unsure how I should treat facebook but I have some ideas though I'm not quite ready to accept requests for friends from someone in Mexico City that I've never met before who friends me out of the blue because I do worry about facebook hackers and viruses. But if I met you online or in reality I'm likely to accept the friend request. Family or friends I've learned what information to share about myself and I'm not so worried about people outing me because pretty much it's difficult to keep a degree of privacy these days. I suppose that might be part of the online maturation process if we can call it that. I don't think I'll be weeding my friends list anymore though because maybe I just need to take a break from online activity. In a few months I might want to check in a see how you're doing or how you're little ones are and that's life. I don't have to be constantly connected to everyone in my life and I'm not always. There are people I know who aren't on facebook or don't use it much and that's fine too.
    PGY4 Nephrology Fellow

    Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there.

    ~ Rumi

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    • #47
      Maybe I'm a cold-hearted bitch, but I've never had my feelings hurt by someone declining my friend request. Truly, I don't pay attention. And I certainly don't fret over culling the herd. I rarely accept requests from people I don't know well, anyway, so it isn't a frequent issue. If people get their panties in a wad over it, that isn't my issue.

      My sister still lives in the same tiny town where we grew up. She's a teacher so EVERYONE in town knows her and our family. Our cousin is also a cop in the same town. I get friend requests from people I last saw or talked to 20+ years ago because they know my sister, BIL, and various cousins all the time. Seriously. Some guy from my freshman business English class in HIGH SCHOOL friended me a couple weeks ago. Uh, no dice, dude. I'm still not completely convinced that I took that class freshman year, much less that he was in it, too.

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      • #48
        We'll you're just a tough cookie diggitydot and we all love you for it. We all need a little diggitydot in us.
        PGY4 Nephrology Fellow

        Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there.

        ~ Rumi

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        • #49
          Originally posted by diggitydot View Post
          Maybe I'm a cold-hearted bitch, but I've never had my feelings hurt by someone declining my friend request. Truly, I don't pay attention. .
          Ha! I've had a person from IMSN who I really like ignore my friend request, and by the same token, I ignore dozens of friend requests of people I just don't know or of people who I'm just not comfortable with in real life. Specifically a girl who surrounded me with her friends and threatened me because her boyfriend liked me in HS. Now you want to be FB friends?

          I try not to take FB too seriously. It's cool if you don't want to be my friend and I honestly have no idea if I am unfriended. I just don't keep up with it that closely and it's not that serious. I had a friend announce on FB how hurt her feelings were that she had been unfriended by someone.
          Last edited by Chrisada; 09-30-2011, 10:39 AM.

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          • #50
            I don't really consider myself "tough", but I'm at that point in life where I don't feel bad for establishing boundaries or keeping them. Some else getting pissy over my uncrazy boundaries is their issue, not mine.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Chrisada View Post
              Ha! I've had a person from IMSN who I really like ignore my friend request, and by the same token, I ignore dozens of friend requests of people I just don't know or of people who I'm just not comfortable with in real life. .....

              I try not to take FB too seriously. It's cool if you don't want to be my friend and I honestly have no idea if I am unfriended. I just don't keep up with it that closely and it's not that serious....
              Wow.. I could have written each of those sentences.
              -L.Jane

              Wife to a wonderful General Surgeon
              Mom to a sweet but stubborn boy born April 2014
              Rock Chalk Jayhawk GO KU!!!

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              • #52
                Hope I didn't refuse anyone. If I did, I didn't mean to. Anyhoo, the timeline thing scares the bejebus out of me. Chad was telling me all about how it is going to track you and everything you do on any facebook linked sites (which is pretty much everything). So, for example, if I went to a blog about hating one's MIL, then it would show up in my timeline. Or, if i was scoping out porn, or new sex toys, it would show up on my timeline. This podcast that Chad was listening to recommended that people who still would like to use facebook use a seperate and distint browser for facebook use only. Holy crap, what a cluster.
                Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.


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                • #53
                  H - I heard the same thing... so ridiculous. Do you know if it affects the fb iphone app? UGH!
                  Wife to PGY4 & Mother of 3.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Vanquisher View Post
                    Hope I didn't refuse anyone. If I did, I didn't mean to. Anyhoo, the timeline thing scares the bejebus out of me. Chad was telling me all about how it is going to track you and everything you do on any facebook linked sites (which is pretty much everything). So, for example, if I went to a blog about hating one's MIL, then it would show up in my timeline. Or, if i was scoping out porn, or new sex toys, it would show up on my timeline. This podcast that Chad was listening to recommended that people who still would like to use facebook use a seperate and distint browser for facebook use only. Holy crap, what a cluster.
                    Seriously?

                    How is that even possible?

                    What if you use different screennames on each site you post on?

                    Um, off to research how to prevent this if at all possible...
                    Married to a Urology Attending! (that is an understated exclamation point)
                    Mama to C (Jan 2012), D (Nov 2013), and R (April 2016). Consulting and homeschooling are my day jobs.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Crystal View Post
                      H - I heard the same thing... so ridiculous. Do you know if it affects the fb iphone app? UGH!
                      No idea. Didn't even think about that. Hopefully it wouldn't affect it because it wouldn't be in the actual browser. So evil.
                      Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.


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                      • #56
                        I'm not sure if you have to approve it or not before it posts. But I sure as hell don't want there to be postings every time I stream something from netflix or read an article. WTH. The whole thing freaked me out. (which is why I now have zero pictures and I deleted all but the most recent posts) Too freaking creepy.

                        FWIW, I don't mind FB announcements. I have four young kids, and am pretty busy with my own stuff so I don't really have time to call people individually and tell them news. (I'm not talking about immediate family) It's either fb or a mass email.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TulipsAndSunscreen View Post
                          Seriously?

                          How is that even possible?

                          What if you use different screennames on each site you post on?

                          Um, off to research how to prevent this if at all possible...
                          Doesn't matter. It uses your browing history and tracking cookies. It's truly frightening. Screen names don't mean anything. Plus, even if you sign completely out of facebook, once you sign back in, it gathers the data. Truly very creepy. I think it was on Buzz Out Loud podcast.
                          Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.


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                          • #58
                            No, you don't have to approve anything. It just automatically posts. This timeline thing is going to piss people off, huge.
                            Heidi, PA-S1 - wife to an orthopaedic surgeon, mom to Ryan, 17, and Alexia, 11.


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                            • #59
                              I read an article the other day from a friend that spelled out how to get around this, if I can find it I will post it.
                              Wife to NSG out of training, mom to 2, 10 & 8, and a beagle with wings.

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                              • #60
                                http://mashable.com/2011/09/28/new-facebook-feature/

                                From what I understand, once you authorize an app, it can automatically post updates about what you're reading, watching, etc. Still, I wouldn't panic. Just don't authorize a bajillion apps. Ask yourself what you're getting out of each app and if it's worth giving up a bit of your privacy for it.
                                Cristina
                                IM PGY-2

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