Wavy hair

[MsSassyBaskets]

Hm... so mine is fairly fine, but there's a lot of it. When it's straightened and/or dirty it can hang really limp, but when it's clean, dry, and/or frizzed, it can get HUGE. A lot of variability. I do think it's probably over-dry right now because of the winter weather, so some deep conditioning, co-washing, or less washing in general might help its texture. Maybe that plus a good serum/cream-type styling product for smoothing and defining without too much crispiness or weight. And I probably need a wide-tooth comb for detangling without pulling out the waves. I will keep experimenting...

[HouseofWool]

I never ever comb or brush my hair. Like maybe twice a year. I have very fine, flyaway hair, but tons of it. So, I need a product to tame it down without adding any additional body. Straight argan oil helps. While silicone products work well initially, I found that eventually they made it so I needed to wash every day which is the opposite of what works well for curly/wavy hair.

I will also second the JesseCurl product line. It is on my list of stuff to get in bigger bottles. Their deep conditioner is amazing.

[Sheherezade]

Yeah - mine it fairly straight too even though I'd call it wavy. It just has body and direction; without a flat iron, it waves around in big open bends. Not curls. No one would ever say it was curly - and I can brush it endlessly and not get frizz.

Hair is more complicated than I'd guess! I'm not sure we are all talking about the same type of hair issues....


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[Curegirl]

Mine has also gotten curlier with less washing. Just every other day now, no blowdrying, just air dry, scrunch with Infusium 23, and Kerastase Serum Nuit once in a while because that shit's expensive!

[Thirteen]

This is me, and I'm tired of trying products that either dry out my already dry/coarse hair, or make it oily looking.

Help!

It's so schizophrenic - partly wavy, partly straight.

I've tried natural products (Shea, coconut base), silicone free products, leave in smoothing serums, leave in conditioners, s&c for wavy hair, for curly hair, for dry and damaged hair.
I just want something that works, that isn't ridiculously expensive, and is part of a quick routine to get ready in the morning.
I work out 4-5 days a week, and I'm moving to a coastal/humid area.


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[HouseofWool]

Whatever you do, it will change once you move.

That said - unless your hair is dirty with actual particulate, don't use shampoo frequently. Curly/wavy hair tends to be dry and shampoo makes that worse. Even with exercise, your hair isn't "dirty". Sweaty and gross, but not dirty. Rinse and scrub your scalp with conditioner to help redistribute the natural oils. I needed to work up to not washing frequently, so every other day, then every 3 days, etc.

Because I am looking to tame flyaways (not really frizz - bc frizz=damage), I want a product that is a bit heavier. I use straight argan oil. No idea about the quality, but if I smooth it on straight out of the shower in the morning, my hair doesn't look or feel oily. I find solid oils like shea and coconut too hard to get into my hair without it looking greasy.

I recently changed to a jojoba conditioner from the food co-op. It seems absurdly expensive at $10/bottle, but, I use about 15% of the shampoo I used to use and much less in the way of product.

I would also suggest checking out the Jesse Curl line that Michele mentioned. I really liked their stuff, but I find the plain argan works about as well at a fraction of the cost.

[poky]

Yeah - mine it fairly straight too even though I'd call it wavy. It just has body and direction; without a flat iron, it waves around in big open bends. Not curls. No one would ever say it was curly - and I can brush it endlessly and not get frizz.

Hair is more complicated than I'd guess! I'm not sure we are all talking about the same type of hair issues....

This is exactly how I'd describe my hair.

Unlike most of you, though, it's not dry, at all. Definitely more oily.

[HouseofWool]

This is exactly how I'd describe my hair.

Unlike most of you, though, it's not dry, at all. Definitely more oily.

It is possible, but I am skeptical.

Many times extremely dry skin actually looks oily because the body is trying to compensate for the lack of moisture in the skin. The same thing happens to the scalp. It feels really counterintuitive (BTDT), but once I stopped stripping the natural oils off of my face and scalp, they stopped producing so much.

[JDAZ11]

It is possible, but I am skeptical.

Many times extremely dry skin actually looks oily because the body is trying to compensate for the lack of moisture in the skin. The same thing happens to the scalp. It feels really counterintuitive (BTDT), but once I stopped stripping the natural oils off of my face and scalp, they stopped producing so much.

This. I agree that my scalp never gets oily since I stopped washing so often.

[Curegirl]

Agreed, it took my hair a while to get used to not washing it as frequently (it got worse before it got better) but now I can stretch it out to 3 days, which seemed totally impossible before

[HouseofWool]

I am at about 5 days between washings, but I still rinse and condition daily.

[poky]

It is possible, but I am skeptical.

Many times extremely dry skin actually looks oily because the body is trying to compensate for the lack of moisture in the skin. The same thing happens to the scalp. It feels really counterintuitive (BTDT), but once I stopped stripping the natural oils off of my face and scalp, they stopped producing so much.

My face is more dry than not (but not extremely dry), but I'm not convinced about my scalp. I use a conditioning cleanser, about every 3-4 days (I'm not using a shampoo every day, at all!), and about once a month it starts getting weighed down and feeling gross on the second day (probably because I'm too impatient to rinse completely thoroughly every time; the stuff's kinda thick and doesn't rinse quickly), so I use a little bit of a clarifying shampoo to reset (and immediately follow with the conditioner). I use this: http://www.drugstore.com/salon-grafi...9?catid=183500, and at one point I tried the "normal hair" version (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=395225) a few times, but my hair was gross by the next day consistently on that stuff. I also tried the Ren (wen knockoff) stuff, and it completely weighed my hair down, too. Do I just need to be more patient? is the stuff I'm using actually stripping it and continuing to cause the oiliness?

[HouseofWool]

That sounds about right. I don't really need to do the reset.

It was funny, I washed my hair today and didn't like how stripped it felt before conditioning. I am too cheap to toss the bottle of shampoo, but I am looking forward to switching over to something more gentle once it is empty.

[DrBandMe]

See now, I read all of your advice and I want to try to move away from shampooing but every time I've tried, I've failed. Maybe I'll give it a go again soon.

For now, I wash and condition every other day and let it air dry. The waves and curls hold much better through the day, even after brushing. I also avoid any heat and any extra products. Sometimes some argan oil. Sometimes. My hair is below my bra line and very fine.

[Michele]

I can't do the no-shampoo method. I need to wash my hair every day. My scalp will get funky if I don't. I've tried conditioner-only washing, many different drug-store conditioners and shampoos and just water washing - fingertip scrubbing my scalp until my arms want to fall off from keeping them above my head for so long. It doesn't work. That's one of the things I love about the Jessicurl "Shampoo". She has two in her line....I use the Hair Cleansing Cream for me, and the Gentle Lather Sahmpoo for the kids. The Hair Cleansing Cream didn't suds at all for the first week or so...maybe longer, but I get some suds most of the time now, unless my hair is really dirty...then it doesn't suds. My sister didn't like the non-sudsing part....but it doesn't suds much and doesn't dry my curls out or mess up the cuticle and curl. I wash every day, and sometimes twice a day. The Gentle Lather Shampoo works great for the kids, but it's too drying for me. My hair gets big and poofy.

The other thing I love about Jessicurl, is that I can run my hands through my hair. I can touch and play with my curls if I want to....or if other people want to (women will stop me about once a month and ask to touch my curls and comment on them). They don't frizz or blow up. If I play with my hair too much, it just goes flat. And the curls enlongate into waves.

Maybe I just have awesome hair, but I really think it's the product.