Ebola coming to the US

[PrincessFiona]

Exactly, LM!

[MrsC]

He helped carry a sick 19 year old pregnant woman (poor woman) FOUR DAYS before he left. She died, but they were turned away at the hospital, so they never really could know why. Remember the state of prenatal care in Africa? Apparently this woman was the first in the neighborhood. This man's neighbors got sick...after he left. Sure, he might have had an inkling that it could be ebola, but did he know for sure? I think there is reasonable doubt. But I'm sure he heard about it and correctly assumed it was ebola after he got here.


I believe that it was a long planned trip, or at least a few weeks in advance. Maybe he was planning to stay here illegally--I'd believe that. I highly doubt he got a visa in 4 days.

As for the nephew demanding the same care for his family member. Umm no shit, who wouldn't??

I feel for the guy. He may have come intentionally, but I really think there is a good chance he did not intend to come here with the disease and seek treatment

I didn't see any news today, was going by what I read yesterday.
I don't fault him for wanting better healthcare or his family for wanting that for him. It's human nature. I just thought it strange that they said that, it seemed defensive.
Regardless, it's kind of messed up to travel to another country and visit family with young kids knowing you have come from and possibly been exposed to a deadly disease with an incubation period of three weeks.

[ladymoreta]

I worry about my FIL. He works in an African country in the oil business. He is there for about 5 weeks then home 4-5 weeks. If we wait 3 weeks, we'll likely never see him, due to DH's schedule. He really doesn't interact with the citizens there, just the people at the oil company, but it's kind of scary. So far, I don't believe there have been any cases reported in the country where he works, but a lot of people are going to local spiritual leaders rather than hospitals and medical centers, so there's a chance they haven't been reported. There were some cases in a bordering country.

[TulipsAndSunscreen]

I'm way more worried about a flu/airborne super bug than Ebola. Ebola is easy to contain with proper infectious disease precautions. Airborne flu is basically impossible to control.

[Thirteen]

I'm way more worried about a flu/airborne super bug than Ebola. Ebola is easy to contain with proper infectious disease precautions. Airborne flu is basically impossible to control.

Exactly why this is one of his best (and most terrifying) books.


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[Ladybug]

Yes. Way people day from flu complications annually. Are we going to geographically isolate Asia each flu season? You cannot ethically isolate a country. Supplies and workers need to get in and return easily. I totally agree with administration on this call. It would ultimately harm our neighbors. You can't chose lives. You treat everyone as well as possible as it unfolds. They are doing everything reasonable to stop sick people from traveling and redirecting them to the care they need. None of us are going to die Ebola. I would put money on that.

[ladymoreta]

Very few Americans in America would die from Ebola. Lots of Africans in countries without outbreaks will die if/when it is introduced into their countries by people fleeing outbreaks in their countries and communities. Left isolated, an Evola outbreak runs its course fairly quickly. It's the traveling that's making this one so bad.

[v-girl]

And now a healthcare worker who cared for Duncan (who passed away last week) has tested positive for Ebola.


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[rainbabies]

My dh just informed me this am that he deals with a big population of west African people in ND. He said the migrant population is huge. The prego women may not be traveling back and forth but their husbands and family members are all the time.

Why isn't there a no travel ban?

[v-girl]

"All emergency cases are being diverted from Presbyterian's emergency room "because of limitations in staffed capacity," the hospital said."

Don't mind me. I'll just be hiding out in my cushy suburban county.

I don't blame you, Cassy. I do hope they wouldn't make it mandatory for a nurse to treat someone with this, but at the same time, how could you not do it? I don't know. It does scare me and makes me not want my husband riding the light rail to work. When the last guy was dx, I had him drive to work that week. That gets expensive and he loses time that could be spent reading (and playing games) on his iPad.


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[Deebs]

V-girl - does this mean it was someone in the ED and they're quarantining all ED staff? I can't imagine what that will do to any city. My bigger fear is a city with a large at-risk population (NYC, etc) will run out of isolation beds very quickly, especially with flu season kicking in.


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[JDAZ11]

Ugh. I hate this. I'm not really worried about my DH - beyond just chance encounters in the hall or parking garage, I don't think he would be close to anyone treating a patient with Ebola. But my little sister is in nursing school and is in the ED for her clinical this semester. Not at all excited about that....

[v-girl]

V-girl - does this mean it was someone in the ED and they're quarantining all ED staff? I can't imagine what that will do to any city. My bigger fear is a city with a large at-risk population (NYC, etc) will run out of isolation beds very quickly, especially with flu season kicking in.


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http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/healt...bola/17147507/


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[v-girl]

According to the link, there is another person in isolation.


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[Deebs]

No, flu doesn't require ISO beds, but symptoms are similar to Ebola. This is a BIG topic of discussion amongst EMS/EM internationally right now. There are patients who won't/can't be isolated but possibly should be. In addition, EMS doesn't pick patients up with PPE, nor do ED workers wear them as a matter of routine. The debate is where to draw a line?


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